Colleen, you said that anyone who creates bad karma, even though they piled up good karma afterwards, "will still owe a debt".

Do you know anyone, anyone at all, who has ever lived a bad karma free life? Anyone?

I would wager that answer is no and I would wager that you have bad karma as well in this life that will gaurantee you yet another life without heaven.

Don't you see the hopelessness?? There is no way you can avoid reincarnation and ever make it to heaven. Not one example of a person ever going through life without some bad karma points which according to your beliefs, must be paid for in another lousey reincarnated life.

If that is living then I would not want to live. Over and over and over having to live life after life after life in a lousey evil world where people are going to push your buttons and cause you to mess up and WHAM! cursed to live another reincarnated life and do it all over again.

The God I believe in offers mercy and grace and paid that bad karma debt that no one can pay, even if you had 10000 lives to try to be perfect. What a Perfect, Merciful, Loving God I serve!

Your god has no mercy Colleen, and I am sorry if me pointing that truth out upsets you. I only want you to consider your inability to ever be good enough to make heaven under this system some man created called Karma.

Is the god of Karma really a loving god?

Just imagine a god that pays his children back 10 fold for what wrong they have done?? Imagine that! Just take that in for a moment, a loving god punishing his children an eye for an eye, not even an eye for an eye, but ten eyes for one eye!

Imagine a child of god, a man, kidnapping and raping a young girl just ten years old. Torturing her over and over for years and then finally killing her. This child of god then dies and for his crimes against this little girl god births him into a new life, unawares of the previous life of a child molester, births this man into a little girl. Now this child of god has become a little girl, knowing nothing about it's past life of evil against another, this child of god grows into a little ten year old girl and now she must pay, pay for a past life she knows nothing about, all she knows is that this filthy old man has kidnapped her and is raping her over and over and over, pain and suffering as a little ten year old girl, for a punishment from a past life void from any part of her memory.

Karma would have to declare that all of the little boys and girls being raped and killed in this world have it coming, a past life is why they are being molested and tortured. What a god, what a god, a loving god, really?

It doesn't sound very appealing to me. A constant existence of being born over and over and over and over until one reaches some kind of perfection so it will stop.

There is a huge disappointment in this belief, how long has humans been doing this according to the belief, you said long before Christ, and not one has ever lived a perfect life so that they can stop all of their pain and suffering over and over again. Do you know anyone who has even come close to being perfectly kind and loving to everyone all the time?

Pain and suffering over and over and over, and this sounds better than one life, believe in Jesus' sacrifice for your sin, and love God and love each other until death and be ressurrected to life again with God, never ever again to be trapped in a body of sin and death??

Do you realize, that the very fact that everyone keeps on dying means that no one has been good enough to stop the curse.

This is what I am saying. It seems that if you ask ten different people the same question about fundamentalist christians you get ten different answers. I really don't mind being called a fundamentalist if the true definition fits, but let's first educate ourselves on just what a fundamentalist christian is. I heard some people say that a fundamentalist christian believes God has ordered christians to kill the infidels. Are we just making up our own definitions now?

I think maybe my question is not quite clear enough because I am getting some strange answers like all people following a religion is a fundmentalist or such.

There are Christians who say to other Chrsitians "you are a fundamenatalist". So the question really is what is the difference between a "regular" Christian and a "fundamental" CHristian? In your mind anyways?

Thanks Vinny (my boy is named Vinny)

So have you seen me say something that falls into your definition? If you don't remember, ask me a question or two and test me.

Jam 2:23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.

What an honor, to be called the Friend of God!

Jesus Himself warned us that false brethern and perverters of the gospel will be among the true CHristians. I have said this many times but the unbelievers do not care about the truth. Even the KKK and Hitler's Natzis claimed to be christian.

You will know them by their fruits, murderers are NOT christians. Haters are not Christians.

No, Jesus needs no defense from Christians on this site. In fact, I have not seen anyone here as of yet lay any charges against the testamony about Jesus as recorded in the historical record (bible).

There have been many accusations hurled at Christians for being fundamentalist and I am not quite sure what they mean by that, nor am I sure they know, so I started a thread on it for some answers. "Fundamentalist" seems to have many meanings from the different post that I have seen. I know the dictionary's definition but it seems to be used rather loosely here so that is why I asked.

I guess they see me as a fundamentalist so rather than me trying to debate this I would just like to know what I have said that would cause one to use "fundamentalist" in a condescending way towards me. Maybe I am a fundamentalist, and if I am according to their definition of one then I am what I am, I won't deny it. Just no so sure how they are using the term.

Take a chair for example, I have enough knowledge and evidence to trust that when I lay hold of it I can sit down on it without it breaking apart. I don't blindly believe that a chair will hold me, I have evidence through experience that i can trust it.

Now a chair i can see, Jesus I cannot, but I have enough evidence through scripture and experience to know that my faith is in the truth.