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    Is it bad to correct a child by beating

    +4  Views: 1940 Answers: 14 Posted: 10 years ago
    bulletman

    Ask Dr. Spock who's book on child rearing read by a huge amount of women did not work out in practice, he admitted he was wrong, there was no harm in smacking as his own children grew up with no repect for themselves or any one else, sounds a bit like my brother's kids as his wife read the book too. A smack when deserved will not harm them for later life, they have to be accountable for their actions.
    Colleen

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    Please do not answer your own question. If you have more to say, add it here, thanks.

    I've moved your comment (below) to this section where it goes.

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    slimjimpopo

    You people are so funny if i had a child he is my child and i have the right to correct him the way i want but I wont abuse the corrections
    slimjimpopo

    You are a computer genie Colleen
    Bob/PKB

    SJP: You can TRY to correct your child any way you want (when you have one), but never for a minute think you can correct your child any way you want without consequence.

    14 Answers

    YES!


    Words speak louder than anything, go try it, have you ever had your a$$ kicked?

    slimjimpopo

    spare the rod and spoil the child
    ROMOS

    Context is understanding.
    slimjimpopo

    what should you do to naughty children
    ROMOS

    Did you actually read my answer?
    I was beaten as a child, never did me any harm, it wasn't abusive, I never ever hit my children, I was the one who was being difficult.
    slimjimpopo

    true depends on the type of child
    I grew up as a quiet child so i wasnt beaten
    I have a little cousin who i give him occasional pulling of the jaws for his naughtiness
    ROMOS

    I'm a believer in "needs must" if it's deserved, it's deserved, but not extreme.

    Yes it is wrong, you can discipline a child without hitting them, and you should certainly never beat any child.

    Never beat a child or any living thing! You want to beat something take a rug outside and beat that!!

    slimjimpopo

    pulling his little jaws will do
    terryfossil 1

    and you are trying to teach the rug what....

    A Beating ? That would be an assault. Personally, I am against smacking children. No one has the right to inflict pain on anybody.

    It's abuse.You beat your child to dicipline him becase your parents beat you & then your child passes it on to his kids & so it goes on.

    When my son was about 5, I told him to stop doing something (and described it carefully, so he would know exactly what he was being asked to stop doing). I told him I would stop the car, pull down his pants, and give him a swat on his "bare-bottomed butt".  
    After the SIXTH time to pull over (each time repeating the request to STOP the behavior), it became apparent he wasn't going to stop because of a swat (sharp but not a beating).                                                                                                                                                     There are more effective ways to discipline most children, but I believe that on occasion, a swat to a padded bottom gets attention better than all the words in the world.  


    NO, it is not a good idea to "correct" a child by beating him. 

    I did not hit my kids, once threw my preteen son on his bed, he bounced up and hit the wall next to bed with his back.  He said "dad, you just hit me, never before have you done that".  I answered that technically, I threw you and you bounced off the bed to the wall, but end result, "did it get your attention?"  He said it did, and I never hit or threw him like it again...  Not to say, that I did not holler at him, more than at my daughter.  Both have children, and do neither hit or holler at their kids, so far... 

    Bob/PKB

    We/I tried darned near everything, short of letting them do whatever the heck they wanted. No one should EVER judge another parent's methods unless there is clear evidence of child abuse. (just writing this here because you would understand me more than somebody else). Sounds like you and your wife did a great job raising two responsible adults!
    bustieone

    I remember a kid in school once, had bruises on temple, and loss of hearing. I went to Guidance Dept. brought to their attention, now this was a soph. in high school, DSS got involved. Came out the step dad was slugging him beside the head. Teachers are mandated reporters legally, I felt good in that the guy was put on notice, and kid remained in home, my worry was foster care. The kid got his hearing partially back, and graduated, I think went into service. So, I felt strongly about abuse vs. parenting... And thanks, we feel we did o.k...
    slimjimpopo

    there is a difference between correcting and abusing i think the idea of children's rights is going out off bounds
    Bob/PKB

    slim, I agree with you, there should be a limit to what a kid can get away with. Once, when subbing, I GENTLY took the arm of a miscreant junior in high school who refused to sit down after being asked several times AFTER the tardy bell rang. "You can't touch me!" he hollered, and, sure enough, I found myself in the principal's office after school for the "offense". That kid should have been in detention for insubordination, but I was getting harassed. Disgusting.
    itsmee

    bustione, I sure do like that story about your bouncing baby boy! : D

    You should NEVER beat a child ! It hurts them mentally and physically , and they don't learn from that. AND never beat or hit an animal, either.!

    itsmee

    Glad you got animals in there, mcm.

    Not according to the Holy Bible


    The following quotations  come from the King James Version (KJV) of the Bible:





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    Prov 13:24: "He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes (diligently)."


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    Prov 19:18: "Chasten thy son while there is hope, and let not thy soul spare for his crying."


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    Prov 22:15: "Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child; but the rod of correction shall drive it far from him."


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    Prov 23:13: "Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die."


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    Prov 23:14: "Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell (Shoel)."


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    Prov 29:15: "The rod and reproof give wisdom: but a child left to himself bringeth his mother to shame."



    An additional verse from the New Testament is occasionally cited as justification for physical punishment of children:





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    Hebrews 12:6-7: "...the Lord disciplines those he loves, and he punishes everyone he accepts as a son. Endure hardship as discipline; God is treating you as sons. For what son is not disciplined by his father?"



    http://www.religioustolerance.org/spankin8.htm


     


     

    slimjimpopo

    look for a Good News Bible with drawings and scan through all the pages if you wont see a parent giving his child some beatings
    slimjimpopo

    yeah the Bible says it alll
    terryfossil 1

    Digger ,i think you have well and truly covered all questions and answer's
    mycatsmom

    Digger, Jesus came to straighten all that out; And in Hebrews, it does NOT say to beat your son. Slim Jim, the Good News bible is not a translation. It's a paraphrase. It should not be studied , or taken as " the gospel truth "
    terryfossil 1

    mcm,my understanding is this,,Christ did not come to change the old testament, but rather to add to it...nice talking to you as always,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

    Beat? As in  beating? You’ve got to be kidding…. Who learns from  beating?  Jesus Christ was beaten with a whip 50 times and he still believed in what he was doing. Perhaps he should have talked it over a glass of wine………...

    mycatsmom

    and there was glass and metal shards imbedded in the whip.It was called a cat of nine tails, b/c it had 9 whips on the end of it. It tore up the flesh.
    slimjimpopo

    you are misunderstanding the context he was grown up and he knew what he was doing

    No,,if parents took more control of their children instead of hopeing schools will...you would have more children giving more respect to adults,,As Digger said,,spare the rod spoil the child,,,,however ,do not blow it out of proportion ,i did not say punch the hell out of a kid,,i never got the cane at school for something i did not do,,,,,

    slimjimpopo

    just pinching his cheeks will do

     I am from the old school," Spare the Rod, Spoil the Child."

    terryfossil 1

    spot on mr. bullet

    A child who is beaten will grow up to be an adult who beats their child. It's a "cycle of violence." If I'd been beaten as a child I would have been ruined.  I never beat (or hit) my children. They do not beat or hit their children.


    It's a very old fashioned idea that beating will correct things. It would be more a great grandparents idea than a parent or grandparent of this generation.


    There are children who simply cannot be controlled. These kids might have ADHD (Or some other problem.) These kids need to be seen  by the family doctor. There's much that can be done to correct or change behaviors.


    Good Question. 

    Colleen

    Moderator
    Not always. Some of us learn from the beatings and do not do the same to our children. I never beat my sons.
    itsmee

    That's so true. I'm sorry for what happened to you, I'm glad you learned. I think it's the smart kids who use their brains who learn not to beat their kids. You seem like a pretty smart woman - just a wild guess. : )
    I had a similar experience. My dad and his two brothers were alcoholics. When I was in my 30's & early 40's, I was drinking way too much. I went to the community college and took all the classes on addiction (even got a degree!) At that time I found out I WAS an alcoholic. I was horrified but not surprised. I quit drinking very soon after that. I wasn't far enough gone to get sick from quitting ... but I was on my way. I never drink now. Alcoholism is a terrible disease.
    terryfossil 1

    hi itsmee,,i am a grandparent of this generation,,and i agree with the grandparents of the last generation,,as for the adhd,they are finding ,some of the kids being treated for adhd were just unruly kids with a bad attitude.as for the kids,some people would say "just tell the kid not to put his hands on the red hot cooking plate"and you and i both know the kid will try to see if you are right,,now i would rather smack his little butt before he gets 3rd degree burns,,because with his hands burnt he will not need a smack to teach him,,now you tell me ,,who hurt him the most,,,always good to talk to you itsmee,,,,,,

    sure because it causes psychological contract

    itsmee

    I don't understand "psychological contract"
    slimjimpopo

    punish the child when he does wrong and console him when he starts crying he will continue loving you
    Bob/PKB

    Make the child cry in pain so you then comfort him lovingly? Very confusing, pschologically destructive. "If I do bad things, I'll get punished, but then I'll be loved".
    slimjimpopo

    to much psychology
    Colleen

    Moderator
    I do not see anything here about causing pain. Punishment does not have to mean pain. Children do need to learn there is a consequence to acting bad. Taking away a favorite toy can bring on the tears.
    Bob/PKB

    Generally, a beating would, most likely, in all probability, doubtless, most of the time,cause pain.
    Colleen

    Moderator
    I agree but there was no mention of beating or hitting the child in this answer or any of the comments. Just punishment which can be time out (my boys howled and cried all through their time outs) or taking something away.
    Bob/PKB

    The conversation is based on the question of whether or not it's ok to beat a child. But, for the sake of peace, "pain" can also be psychological in nature. If you don't believe that, I've got a 7 1/2 month pregnant woman to introduce to you.
    Colleen

    Moderator
    I suffered the pain of psychological and physical abuse. I do not need to meet anyone concerning abuse. I lived it for all of my 18 years at home plus 1 and 1/2 years in my first relationship. I felt you were replying to slimjim's answer which mentions comforting the punished child. He did not say psychologically or physically abuse them. He's said quite the contrary in his other comments. I do not see the confusion in "If I do bad things, I'll get punished, but then I'll be loved" other than adding in, the word "then". Punishment should be given in love always so the child can learn right from wrong and so the child can learn "If I do bad things, I'll get punished because I am loved."
    Bob/PKB

    OK by me.


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