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Tell me, when is the last time you approached a KKK member and tried to get them to see the light?

These people saying they are muslim- but not acting that way at all are "hiding" behind a religion just as the KKK "hides" behind Christianity.

They are mean and evil but a fringe group who hides and plans in secret.

Colleen

Good point.

Colleen

Oh no...the KKK is still here. They just do not have the power they once had when the union ruled the land. But they are there. They just do everything in the backwoods now, not in public.

It is their government and culture.. It is not the religion. Any religion can be perverted into hate.... 

Why don't you tell the good Americans to tell the bad Americans (like Nike Shoes) not to pay Southeast Asian youths $3 per day to make shoes?   16 hours per day.

It's their country and their religion and their politics and Islam is their secular religion and no other religion should be there according to their law. It is the Christian's choice to risk practicing their religion in these countries. It took thousands of years and millions of lives to end the Christian Crusades. Why should the good Muslims would risk their lives trying to stand up for people who perhaps should not be practicing Christianity in a country of only one religion? 

Colleen

Sorry dunc, that'd not even an argument. You can not just stamp your foot and say, "Well we do it, so should they!" In certain counties, there is no such thing as freedom of religion (freedom of anything for that matter). It's their law and custom. There's nothing you or I can do about it unless you agree with the war mongers that we invade, attack and force democracy onto people and call it freedom.
You say this is a Christian country, well then it is the Christians in our country who treat American born tax paying homosexuals as second class citizens and fight to keep our rights from us in this land of the free and supposedly equal rights. I'm glad you now understand how we feel about the way you treat us.
This country was settled by people running from religious rule, they did not come here to make a secular religion. This country is not only Christian, stop deluding yourself. Most who call themselves Christian are not even practicing Christians. Others are radical Christians who think the non radical Christians are followers of the devil. I know, I've fought with one in e-mail for 4 days now. Then there are those who say they are just to fit in or to try and keep from being preached at by a sheep herder. There is no accurate count for real Christians as the number is inflated by false Christians. It does not matter the religions of the settlers as the religion they brought is the same they were running from. The history books are not accurate in depicting the truth of the religion in early America. There are not as many real Christians as you all want to claim and certainly not all good ones. But it's always a given the a Christian will stand up and claim the USA as a Christian nation and try to make it the religion of the land and no other religion can be here and build their churches or have their rights observed because THIS IS A CHRISTIAN LAND! That's what I see in your words and your attack on the Muslims already here. What I see is the same thinking your are attacking the Muslims for. Same, same. You are no different than they are. You want them to not practice their religion here, just the same as the Muslims do not want Christianity in their country.

I think God does not care to see the religious squabbling but he stays out of it because he backs no religion. God has watched mankind since he created it. Do you really think your complaints are how he feels?

Colleen

Yes I do agree, I agree to the point of being tolerant enough to allow another country it's religious beliefs that they have only one God and one belief. All others are not welcome. That is their right. I will be tolerant and allow them that right and not believe that others should step into their business and try to change them.

Colleen

It continues today, they just don't kill anymore.

I agree with Caddam. 

I like what Chiangmai said.

JH is on the button..... I think you understand where I am coming from...and Jenn and Colleen and....

I have Muslim friends and I don't know what they could possibly do about what goes on in another country. 

Muslim fundamentalists ARE up to date in that they don't believe  'these times' with its social and political changes should affect their religious belief.  They intend to stay firm in their belief by rejecting 'the times' as an effect 

 Fundamental Amish have a similar belief relative to the 'times' affecting their religion.  Actually most religions with centurys old philosophy is like that.  For Christians the New Testament Bible rules life, and its 2000 years or so old.

By the way, the good Muslims are scared as hell of the fundamendalist reaction if they would attempt to make  them change. 

Why didn't "good Christians" do anything about Jim Jones?

My guess would be fear, brute force, and a feeling of helplessness or inability to create change  keeps those "other" Muslims quiet.  Often, as long as "it's not hurting me", people let things remain status quo.   Muslims are not contained to a particular country or region....they are worldwide. Their numbers are growing, as is their influence and strength...and I'm not talking about  just the "good ones", either.  

For the same reason for which "better red than dead" attitude allowed communism to take over too much of the world for too long time. Luckily "give me liberty or give me death" attitude in places like Hungary, Poland, Checkhoslovakia terminated it in most of the places.

More blood has been shed in the name of religion than any war between countries. Joan of Arc was burned at the stake because she was convicted of Apostasy by the Christians, then centuries later she was declared a saint by the same Christians. The church of her time would never have allowed that. If Christians, or anyone else, in Joan's time tried to help her or tell her accusers that they were wrong in what they were doing, they would befall to the same fate as she. Religion developes over time and changes occur, it depends whom is in charge at different moments in time. Peace on earth has been a difficult ideal to achieve as long as people are narrowminded into thinking that thier way is the only way. The sixth generation of mankind started being born about 25 years ago. The world is starting to change slowly and sometime in the future (not in my lifetime) that generation will bring about a more positive change toward mankind and for mankind. To that I say Welcome and Bright Blessings for the new generation of children.

My though on this subject of religion whether Muslin or Christian, Judaism,seem to be in relevant, lest you practice what you preach! that is if you have an evil hearth than it more likely they will  try to destroy someone else belief. When I'd study these religions, there were no teaching on harming your fellow men, On another note, Don't do too other what you'd wouldn't want other do too you!!

Good muslims, christians and good people generally SHOULD continue being good to one another in a tolerant way and let all practice their beliefs. The bad people remain bad until they come into the grips of the law which Must be bold enough to punish these elements.  It is upto the individuals to choose between living 2000 year old practices Or live according to the times.  All Religions teach good things! And by the way going to a place of worship not necessarily make good people. It is the conviction of practice that changes people not showing up only!

Please click on the link to read about the latest "honor killing" of their own muslim family members not in the countries were they were born but in countries that adopted them... https://webmail.west.cox.net/do/redirect?url=http%253A%252F%252Fwww.cbsnews.com%252F8301-504083_162-57368454-504083%252Fafghan-family-convicted-of-murdering-4-relatives-in-canadian-honor-killing-case%252F

Colleen

Again, this speaks of a fragmented group of the religion. Not all followers believe in the honor killings. It's becoming apparent you have a personal agenda to attack a religion you do not agree with, something this forum does not allow. I suggest you let it rest now.

Just no answer to that question