Should LGBT movement be included in California textbooks?

    This was on Fox and I generally like to use several sources before I trust veracity of one outlet. So considering this came from one source, I would have to say that I am against including such information in textbooks.

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    I disagree Mat. I believe it's the promoters of hate who are causing this nation to spiral downward. They keep the fires of discontent and separation blazing.

    As far as this being added to textbooks, I think the only thing they should be teaching is tolerance of all people. Maybe young teens will stop dying if someone with common sense tells them it's not OK to bully or beat up on another child because they are different.

    If that's even too much for some, there's always home schooling.



    I just checked with the GLBT group. I didn't recall them asking for all that is listed in the FOX report. I think someone did a bit of embellishing to that report to make it all sound scarier for the non excepting people. This is the only objective listed: "a study of the role and contributions of lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender Americans … to the economic, political and social development of California and the United States of America, with particular emphasis on portraying the role of these groups in contemporary society." I've posted the full article below.


    I am against this insidious ruling. Our kids are routinely exposed to the underbelly of society. While Homosexuality and such cannot be erased except by the Hand of God, adding such vulgarity to K12 textbooks violates wisdom and propriety. Futher evidence of why this nation is moving downwards and eventually into oblivion.


    I'm all for tolerance of all people. Bullying is always wrong. I would rather have my children read or hear as little as possible about alternative lifestyles, and that is what they are. When my children are grown up, if they choose to follow another path, I'll put a plastic bag over their head while they sleep...., just kidding. I will love them just the same. But I don't want them to get these ideas through school. If they have a natural desire in that direction, then I have to accept that, but I don't want them being predisposed in such a manner as that described in the fox article.

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    From Members of this website helped write the bill.

    Apr. 5, 2011
    News Article
    Los Angeles Times
    Patrick McGreevy

    Democratic lawmakers have revived a plan to require state schools to teach about the contributions of gay, lesbian and transgender Americans. They are reigniting a movement that halted five years ago when legislators approved such a requirement only to run into opposition from then-Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger.
    Now, with a Democrat in the governor's office, the lawmakers and gay rights activists are more hopeful that school curricula will be revised.Gov. Jerry Brown has not taken a position on the proposal. But the push has divided religious leaders, educators and lawmakers and prompted accusations from opponents that those behind the effort seek to impose their values on the state and on students and parents who find same-sex relationships objectionable."It is, in fact, legislating morality," said Craig DeLuz, a parent and Sacramento school board member. "It is requiring taxpayers to foot the bill to promote a lifestyle to which they may or may not be morally opposed."

    If implemented, the measure, which would revise social science textbooks, could have effects beyond California. The state is a major purchaser of educational texts, and publishers often produce books tailored to California that other states use as well.

    The proposal would require that social science texts and other instruction include "a study of the role and contributions of lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender Americans … to the economic, political and social development of California and the United States of America, with particular emphasis on portraying the role of these groups in contemporary society."

    Each school district would decide which age groups received such instruction.

    Gay rights activists say the legislation is overdue and would extend recognition long provided in textbooks and classrooms to historical figures who are African American, Latino and Asian American.

    Sen. Mark Leno (D-San Francisco) who introduced the bill, SB 48, said it addresses a glaring oversight in educating young people that has led to harassment of gays by their classmates.

    In an emotional plea for the bill at a recent legislative hearing, Leno invoked the name of Seth Walsh, a 13-year-old student from Tehachapi who committed suicide last year after facing anti-gay bullying at school.

    "In light of the ongoing and ever-threatening phenomenon of bullying and the tragic result of suicides, it seems to me that better informed students might be more welcoming in their approach to differences among their classmates," Leno said in an interview. "Students would better understand that we are talking about a civil rights movement."

    Some gay high school students said they welcomed Leno's effort, which they said would make them feel less isolated. It would show that non-heterosexuals "have contributed to the U.S. in significant ways," said a 17-year-old at Bell High School.

    The student said he would join dozens of other gay and lesbian students advocating for the bill at a rally Monday at the Capitol.

    Meanwhile, several Republicans are aggressively fighting the proposal. State Sen. Bob Huff (R-Diamond Bar) charged at a recent education committee hearing that it would "sexualize the training of our children at an early age."

    Leno took umbrage at the remark, saying, "I would imagine you have never been harassed or discriminated against because you are gay. I have."

    In the first test of the measure this year, the panel passed it on a 6-3 party-line vote last week.

    The measure is backed by California Church Impact, a group whose members include the Episcopal Church, the United Church of Christ, the Greek Orthodox Church and others. But lawmakers have been flooded with letters of opposition from groups including the California Catholic Conference, the First Southern Baptist Church and the Thousand Oaks Christian Fellowship.

    "This is all absurd," said a letter from several religious leaders, including Arland Steen, a pastor for the Thousand Oaks group. "At a time when our state lacks dollars to pay for the current needs in education, this Legislature is actually considering adding more financial burden on schools to pay for new textbooks that will teach so-called gay history."

    Leno said the proposed law would cost nothing. Textbooks would be changed in the next scheduled revisions, due to be approved by the state in a couple of years.

    Although some teachers have testified against the change, it is supported by the California Teachers Assn. and the Los Angeles Unified School District.

    "We are trying to provide, for those students that feel disenfranchised, some role models," said Virginia Strom-Martin, the district's lobbyist.

    I can't believe their isn't anyone with an opinion on this subject. Is it because I only provided a link to the article on Fox? Or is it because it is associated with fox? Or is it because I should have cut and paste portions of the article? Or maybe it's because no one else is from California. But the article says this will likely spread because of the shear volume of textbooks purchased by California. So no matter where you are this may be the trend.

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