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    Do you support the new California minimum wage of 15 dollars an hour ?

    I do .Just because I have heard that McDonalds will layoff workers and that the remaining workers will have to work harder. Those workers don't want to work harder and are against it. Not too often do i get my correct order going through drive thru.

    +5  Views: 587 Answers: 7 Posted: 8 years ago

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    Every time the minimum wage is raised, the cost of everything goes up right along with it.  The cost of everything else going up is going to make it more difficult for people on a fixed income - yeah, those people who already spent 30-50 years working their butts off - struggle to maintain the modest lifestyles most of them "enjoy". 
    A neighbor of mine works for a government agency that his offices in a couple of places in California.  The entering wage for many of the positions is $12/hr; that's not bad for an entry level job with little to no experience.  Those offices will close and relocate, leaving thousands of people out of work, people who had worked their way up through the ranks and earned their $15/hr. 


    NOBODY just starting an unskilled job with no experience should be paid $15 an hour.  California is a beautiful state until you add the bizarre notions of the legislature and "entitlement" driven youth. I seriously wonder if the state legislators have studied how this plan is going to affect the budgets of the state.


    STUPID. 

    ....potential for more robotics ?

    Well I think senior citizens who worked their entire lifes to earn social security should also be paid 15 dollars an hour!  That means I should get 2400.00 a month!   I worked over 40 years and I don't get that kind of money!  Why not?

    ROMOS

    You deserve every penny.
    country bumpkin

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    Yes you do, Clu.

    I have read of a few places that will replace people with machines if that happens. . That's just more people that the government "the people that have jobs "have to support.

    JDB

    What happened anyway?? When I was young places like McDonald's were school jobs or starting out jobs. Not really jobs to raise family's on as the main income. It's still that way around here. It's either high school kids, collage kid, or Senior's that just want something to do. Out neighbor moved up to management and made really good money then. The managers seem to stay there for a long time, I know toe of them and each has over 20 yrs in.
    mycatsmom

    thumbs up to JDB.
    Bob/PKB

    What happened is right! Kids who used to take a part time job after school to have gas money and date money now need those jobs to help pay for the 3 illegitimate kids they have, and someone thinks the wage needs to match those needs.
    JDB

    Exactly Bob!!

    The "living wage" has just been started here in the UK, roughly the same as US Dollars, personally I don't believe it will work out for the good, small companies can't afford it (to be competitive) and large corporations are too greedy to want it (hence they pay off workers), pay rises MUST be payed down, from those who have, to those who don't, I really wish I'd been a Bwanker.

    hector5559

    And ive got to weight untill im 25 Ted before i get the full min wage,,
    ROMOS

    Look forward to it myself Dougal, don't you get the London living bloody wage?

     


    For people who value workers’ rights, 1 April marks a significant improvement in the lives of low-paid workers. However, for the young it is another brutal reminder of how little we value their contribution to society. While the labour of all other age groups will be rewarded with a wage that – even if only symbolically – is intended to provide enough to “live on”, workers under 25 will be waking up to a labour market that does not extend the same decency to them.


    The introduction of the national living wage has done two things; it has symbolically detached workers aged 21-24 from the entitlements afforded their older colleagues, and it has added another rung to the ladder that must be scaled in order to achieve financial security and independence. While today the work of a 22-year-old is recognised as adult labour, with commensurate minimum earnings, tomorrow the national living wage will reduce its relative value and the workers’ comparative income.


    This is made more desperate by the terrible position young British workers are already in. Despite low levels of overall unemployment, running at 5.1% for the three months to January 2016, the unemployment rate for 16- to 24-year-olds was two and a half times higher, at 13.7%. And with the rising costs of university – one of the traditional alternatives to work or unemployment – British young people were already in a very precarious position, without having to wait until their 25th birthday to qualify for a minimum wage high enough to “live” on.


    In the meantime, the young can expect their wages to flag. While for older workers the national living wage is expected to increase 25% to £9 per hour within four years, if previous “minimum wage” decisions over the past four years are anything to go by, young workers can expect to see an increase of 8%, to around £7.25 over the same period.


    If the government had any intention that wages for younger people would keep pace with the “adult” workforce, they would have protected them within the national living wage proposals. That they chose not to speaks volumes, and means that the landscape for younger workers over the next few years looks grim. They will have to do less and less living with their wages, and more and more surviving.


    This will come as no surprise to anyone interested in the wages of the young. The minimum wage for British youth has been slowly but steadily shrinking. From the early days of the national minimum wage, the rates for young people aged 18-20 drifted from 89% of adult wages in 2000-01 to 79% of adult wages in 2015-16. Without an unexpected intervention, the national living wage will accelerate this drift.


    This is not a worldwide trend. Where countries have a minimum wage that differs for the young, the age at which workers become entitled to full adult minimum wages has not increased, nor have they, on the whole, lost ground against the adult minimums in other countries. For example, federal minimum wage rates across Australia have over the last decade increased in ways that “preserve the existing relativities” between the youth and adult minimum wages, and adult wages begin at 21. In Ireland, minimum wage laws set the rates for those under 18 in relationship to adult wages, with a subsequent variation for those employed in their first two years of work.


    Many other countries link age-based pay to training and inexperience. In France, under-18s with less than six months of experience, can be at 90% of minimum wage, and inexperienced under-17s receive 80%, but full minimum wage begins at 18. In the US, federal minimum wages enshrine a lower wage for workers under 20 only for the first 90 consecutive days of their employment.


    The UK is alone among these countries in regulating for a reduced wage for 21- to 24-year-olds, regardless of their experience or training. There is no good argument for disadvantaging young workers in this way regardless of their experience. So, while 1 April may be a good day for workers, with many “winning” an increased wage, it marks a loss for the young who face another level of inequality, this time quantified in their pay packets.


    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/mar/31/low-paid-young-people-pay-rise-national-living-wage

    ROMOS

    Yep.

    It is the same in all countries,as Bob said increase wages means increase cost of living,,but how do you keep the cost of living down when wages and prices keep going up.>???????>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<..



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