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    Where are we now?

    In 1887 Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at the
    University of Edinburgh, had this to say about the fall of the
    Athenian Republic some 2,000 years prior: "A democracy is always
    temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent
    form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until
    the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse over loose fiscal policy, (which is) always followed by a dictatorship."


    "The average age of the world's greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years. During those 200 years, these nations always progressed through the following sequence:


    From bondage to spiritual faith;


    From spiritual faith to great courage;


    From courage to liberty;


    From liberty to abundance;


    From abundance to complacency;


    From complacency to apathy;


    From apathy to dependence;


    From dependence back into bondage."

    +5  Views: 1335 Answers: 11 Posted: 11 years ago
    Ducky

    Moderator
    Randy, why do you do this?
    Headless Man

    Why do I do what Ducky? Ask questions?.........
    Ducky

    Moderator
    No, not ask questions Randy. Ask questions designed to goad the members here, into an argument. Are you a preacher? Are you a wanna-be preacher? Do you feel that this is the place to "reach the masses"? I AM a Christian and quite frankly, though you may mean well, I find your methods embarrassing and annoying. Why not be an example in your community so that people will be drawn to you. You can then sit down quietly with them, and if and when they ask, explain your beliefs. I KNOW what I believe. I don't need to debate, argue, yell, nor prove anything to anyone and I won't! God reaches people in ways that He sees fit and that, I respectfully suggest to you, is NOT by pounding people over the head. That just hurts!
    Headless Man

    Unless you never noticed, this is more of a political question, I know religion can be applied to any question, I was leaving that up to the answers, as you can see I did not comment the first day.
    AS for my opinion, I believe we are at the last step on this sequence........JMO
    Ducky

    Moderator
    I didn't see it as "political". I guess that's just me.
    Headless Man

    Well look at the category before you respond, regardless as to what Colleen believes I am no sneaky Evangelist, blind or have an agenda other than being concerned citizen.
    I don't like cool aid that much either.........lol
    Ducky

    Moderator
    How did you manage to drag Colleen into this discussion? I don't see her post anywhere in this blue section. And one more thing..."Well look at the category before you respond".
    I guess I've been told, haven't I?
    Colleen

    Moderator
    Well, since I've been dragged into this. In my opinion, this is a religious question. What we are suppose to get from this is Randy's idea that we are heading straight for doomsday. Yes Randy, yet again you've tried to find a sneaky way of getting your agenda for warning about the end of the world onto the forum. Doomsday, Apocalypse, the second coming, yadda, yadda. As Fishy said in another thread, you are far too transparent.
    ""
    Headless Man

    LOL LOL LOL LOL thats all I can do, every thing I post you turn into this....lol
    Ducky

    Moderator
    Randy honestly, if this truly makes you LOL LOL LOL LOL, then I reiterate...
    "I find your methods embarrassing and annoying".
    Colleen

    Moderator
    You spent a year here painting this picture of yourself Randy. Now you get to live with it. No one has to turn your agendas into anything. They just are.
    Headless Man

    Ok, Colleen I'll take that handle Defender of the Faithful....... Thats not wrong.
    Colleen

    Moderator
    Good, then also take the comments about your incessant agendas and how they embarrass some of the faithful.
    Headless Man

    My incessant agendas is all in your head, I have only one agenda to tell people of a better way, Jesus.
    Colleen

    Moderator
    Yup, that's one of the incessant agendas. Keeping gays from legally marrying and calling it marriage is another. Jesus is a better way for Christians only. We have more than just Christians here. Leave the people alone on this forum and leave them to their beliefs. If you still think it's all in my head, I'm sure there are many members here who can tell you that apparently it's all in their heads too. You fool no one.
    Have you looked at your other question yet? Even digger called you out on your repeated agendas (including the gays).
    Ducky

    Moderator
    Randy, you have to "show it" and "be it" and "live it" and care deeply about your listeners feelings. Repeating and pounding and pushing will only cause people to turn away from you, as they do right here, all the time, on this forum. Why can you not see that? Do you really think that your method works? I would not choose to be a Christian, had you been my first encounter with one. There are a number of other Christians here, who remain quiet and really, who can blame them?
    mycatsmom

    I think he displays some symptoms of high functioning autism ; and / or asbergers disease....b/c those types are very obsessive and anal.
    Dardaigh

    I have to agree 100% Mycatsmom...OCD/Autism and/or Asperger's Syndrome.
    Colleen

    Moderator
    Asperger's syndrome:
    The lack of demonstrated empathy is possibly the most dysfunctional aspect of Asperger syndrome.[2] Individuals with AS experience difficulties in basic elements of social interaction, which may include a failure to develop friendships or to seek shared enjoyments or achievements with others (for example, showing others objects of interest), a lack of social or emotional reciprocity, and impaired nonverbal behaviors in areas such as eye contact, facial expression, posture, and gesture.[1]
    People with AS may not be as withdrawn around others as those with other, more debilitating, forms of autism; they approach others, even if awkwardly. For example, a person with AS may engage in a one-sided, long-winded speech about a favorite topic, while misunderstanding or not recognizing the listener's feelings or reactions, such as a need for privacy or haste to leave.[8] This social awkwardness has been called "active but odd".[1] This failure to react appropriately to social interaction may appear as disregard for other people's feelings, and may come across as insensitive.

    "The lack of demonstrated empathy is possibly the most dysfunctional aspect of Asperger syndrome."

    "failure to develop friendships or to seek shared enjoyments or achievements with others" ~ When was the last time anyone remembers Randy wishing someone here a happy birthday, a congrats on an achievement or a sympathetic message to one of the members who has lost a loved one?

    " a person with AS may engage in a one-sided, long-winded speech about a favorite topic" ~ Long winded maybe but through use of others words. Hardly ever his own.

    "while misunderstanding or not recognizing the listener's feelings or reactions" ~ <insert picture of Randy here>

    "This failure to react appropriately to social interaction may appear as disregard for other people's feelings, and may come across as insensitive."

    Wow, I have to agree MCM. He fits the description. He should get tested of he hasn't already done so.



    Headless Man

    Thanks for your diagnosis but ed shank put his finger right on the spot, people who don't like me and make everything a big deal that I didn't mean it to be.....
    Colleen

    Moderator
    Well I can understand you thinking that works better for you. You do drive people away from you though.
    Headless Man

    No, you do.....
    Dardaigh

    "No, you do"...funny Colleen...that's what people who are abusive say to their victims..."you made me hit you."

    People are tired of the hammering away at the same theme. This is also very abusive to the posters at this site.

    People who do not see what is going on here have been gone for several months. It is tedious and ongoing.
    Colleen

    Moderator
    It's OK Dar. It's the way Randy fights. He gets all child like and sticks his tongue out going, no suh, you did it! :P
    Headless Man

    That your only line, trying to make me feel childish, you drive people away from me because I don't bow down to you, like all the followers here. If you don't comment on my links, I have little problems....
    Colleen

    Moderator
    You really shouldn't give me so much power. You drive people away on your own. It's never been the same for you since your 3 day tantrum on this forum. People stopped talking to you after that. Accept your responsibilities for your own actions. Do not lay blame on me. I can not make people stop talking to you. I do not have that kind of power to make people avoid you. You've done it to yourself. The fact that you just keep talking and digging yourself in deeper by trying to blame me for people running from your preaching and insulting ways of telling them they need to be saved by accepting your God. You've done it, not me. Go find a religious forum. That's where you belong.
    Headless Man

    If someone is religious, you do your best to drive them off and have done very well at it.

    Colleen

    Moderator
    No, not at all. A lot of my friends and supporters on this forum are religious. If I wanted to drive you off Randy, you would be gone. I do have the power to do that. There's a lot you do not know. You are still here because of me.
    Ducky

    Moderator
    Randy it's insulting to me that you assume that I, or others, post to you in a negative way, due to Colleen's opinion. It's quite interesting that you refer to those posters, as "followers"? Really? Again, I, as a Christian, find your METHODS embarrassing and annoying!!

    (I SWEAR ON A STACK OF BIBLES, DEAR RANDY, THAT I AM POSTING OF MY OWN FREE WILL, MY WELL THOUGHT OUT OPINION, USING ENTIRELY MY OWN BRAIN, WITH NO OUTSIDE INFLUENCE FROM ANYONE, AND THAT I WILL NOW AND FOREVER FIND YOUR METHODS EMBARRASSING AND ANNOYING AND TRULY WISH THAT YOU WOULD LEARN HOW TO SPREAD YOUR BELIEFS WORLD WIDE (IF YOU SO CHOOSE) IN A LOVING AND KIND MANNER!) AMEN? YES, AMEN!!!
    Headless Man

    Me too, Ducky
    Colleen

    Moderator
    Copy and paste is your own opinions and words? Really? You sure blog a lot under different names then. We typically only get to see copy/paste blogs and cheesy articles from unknown cyber news sources along with copy/paste verses from the bible. Not much from your own mind. Not much at all.

    11 Answers

    Not sure where you are Randy, but my head is spinning.

    Dardaigh

    I think we're on akaQa, Ducky. ;)
    Colleen

    Moderator
    Oh just make him happy and start singing, its the end of the world as we know it.....that's what he's reaching for after all. The doomsdayer is at it again.
    millie111

    He always does it!..But don`t most of us know that by now!!...@Randy..Jesus might be YOUR only way...but why not just let O people decide for themselves!...By all means"Spread the Word"...but in a Church or somewhere..plenty of Religious sites out there...just not here:-0...(Enough to turn a believer into an Athiest..IMHO)!!!:-(
    millie111

    Oh...he always tries and fails badly to get one over on the Mods....If he starts with Ducky...it means that Colleen`s next on his hit list!!!LMAO!!randy..you may be obsessed with your preaching...but as a born again..if I remember rightly...then don`T YOU REMEMBER A TIME...when people tried to win you "over"...AND you were "Happy" AS YOU WERE???...PAPA DON`T PREACH...OR MORE IMPORTANTANTLY RESPECT THE VIEWS you had before..that everyone has their own beliefs and concepts...and they`d seek your advice if they so wished!!(you make the Moonies...look like the TELIE TUBBIES !!:-0...no offence to anyones` religions etc...just you paint yourself as Holier than thou!!!...but please rethink this...as if you were completely at peace with yourself...would you really feel the need to bug the Mods ...AS YOU APPEAR TO???!!!:-0
    robertgrist

    Circular thinking lacks purpose.

    Oh, the old gray mare, she ain't what she used to be,Ain't what she used to be, ain't what she used to be.The old gray mare, she ain't what she used to be,Many long years ago.


    Many long years ago, many long years ago.


    The old gray mare, she ain't what she used to be,Many long years ago.


    The old gray mare, she kicked on the whiffletree,Kicked on the whiffletree, kicked on the whiffletreeThe old gray mare, she kicked on the whiffletreeMany long years ago.


    Many long years ago, many long years ago,


    The old gray mare, she kicked on the whiffletreeMany long years ago.


    You are here X


     


     


     


     


     


     


    I am  there >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @_^

    Dardaigh

    ROFLMAO!!!! Hilarious, WD! :D
    Off to watch those vids, now. :)
    sunnyB

    Great answer.

    ""Dear Lord: The gods have been good to me. For the first time in my life, everything is absolutely perfect just the way it is. So here's the deal: You freeze everything the way it is, and I won't ask for anything more. If that is OK, please give me absolutely no sign. OK, deal. In gratitude, I present you this offering of cookies and milk. If you want me to eat them for you, give me no sign. Thy will be done.


     


     

    Colleen

    Moderator
    Blasphemer! :)
    ROMOS

    PHfffttt!!!
    :-)
    Ducky

    Moderator
    Randy says that this is a political question! (See blue section above)
    robertgrist

    "Dang….wheres my lightening blaster when he needs a jolt.” God
    Colleen

    Moderator
    He would enjoy the jolt. ;)
    doolittle

    Hey, can I have a cookie too?? I'm sure that's the message I got- the Lord wants you to share your cookies!

    From bondage to salvage .. whats left of diplomacy..

    Headless Man I think you are full of crap.

    Headless Man

    I haven't had a good BM lately..........lol
    doolittle

    TMI LOL

    You lost me by the third choice.....


     

    Headless Man

    Edit, that help.......lol

    Everyone here knows that Randy has strong religious convictions. The moment he asks or comments on an issue, it automatically is assumed that he is attempting to make a religious statement by way of the back door. I read the question and still see nothing religion specific in the question. He expressed his opinion as to the path this and many other civilzations have taken and fallen in ruin too. I agree with him.

    Headless Man

    Finally someone that can see through all the BS..... thanks
    Colleen

    Moderator
    Watch all his comments or questions. In every one of them, he manages to swing them around to his religion and promotes the saving through Christ. He does this all on his own. Apparently he fools one or two but not all. He did not copy and paste the full heading by the way. It's is about spiritual faith. Like I said, he likes to be sneaky about his agenda. Here's the full beginning.

    Restoring Our Spiritual Faith <<<<<<< (Bringing back his religion for all the people to follow I imagine)
    JULY 1, 2009
    by Guest Blogger
    A guest post from Stewart Browne, who blogs at Scarecrow For President.

    The average age of the world’s greatest civilizations has been two hundred years. These nations have progressed through this sequence:

    From bondage to spiritual faith;
    From spiritual faith to great courage;
    From courage to liberty;
    From liberty to abundance;
    From abundance to selfishness;
    From selfishness to complacency;
    From complacency to apathy;
    From apathy to dependence;
    From dependence back into bondage.

    http://athousandnations.com/2009/07/01/restoring-our-spiritual-faith/
    Headless Man

    Wrong, see above....

    Some Of headlessman's Questions from the first 10-12 pages.


    If this is not obsession and preaching, I don't know what is!


                     *        *       *        *         *         *        *        *


     What do you really believe in?


    How can you not believe the Bible?

    Is Tim Tebow a message from God?

    Why must gays insist that there union be called a marriage?

    If you ask a Religious question, why do you get a TD even if your answer is correct?

    How come people get upset when you say God or Jesus


    The 10 commandments, are they outdated, how would you change any of them?


    OK, educated atheist, make your case....



     If I preached toleration and moderation......

     



    Do you believe Bible prophecies have come true.......

     

     Do you fear evil?



     

     What is your favorite verse from any religious writings?



     

    Should atheist questions be allowed here?



    Who has ever spent more than a few weeks in church?







    Should Bible questions be allowed here?

     

    What is the world coming to?


     

    Bible quiz....

     

    What book has been subject to such a mass attack as the Bible?

     



    What exactly is a Bible thumper?

     



    Should religious organizations be required to provide free contraceptive coverage



     



    CLOSED: SEX or RELIGION

     



    THE WAR OF GOG AND MAGOG

     

     CHRISTIAN GROUPS DEMAND THAT SUBVERSIVE SOUTHERN POVERTY LAW CENTER REMOVE THEM FROM HATE LIST

     


    Do you Support Chick-fil-A in expressing its views.....

     



    ROMOS

    Kinda tells you something eh?
    Dardaigh

    It certainy does, ROMOS.

    Not sure why the spaces are there. I tried to fix them but it came up the same way.
    Headless Man

    All were questions that interest me.......so what, and what does that have to do with the question here.
    Dardaigh

    Interest you...no-one else.
    Headless Man

    How do you know.......
    Dardaigh

    Do you see anyone else endlessly posting these types of threads? No.

    You would be much happier at a religious site. You could start threads and debate to your hearts content.

    People get tired of the same subject from posters. It is like they are ramming their agenda down your throat.

    Funnily enough, another poster at this site comes to mind also. Both of you have one track minds.
    Headless Man

    And several that's ben run off......
    Colleen

    Moderator
    Yup, the thumpers did get run off. It was a new rule the admin had to implememnt because of all the thumping and preaching and sermoning that was going on here. So much so that we had new members asking if this was a Christian site. Anyone who could not stop preaching got removed.

    Civilization does not cycle through a sequence but to fail miserably into ashes, but to rise again. We are advancing and there are problems that we have to handle. These problems can be solved by simple methods without going to radical extremes and destructive purges. Problems arise when they are chosen rather than loving, honest and open ways.      

    Headless Man

    Hope your right.....

    Back to old business !



    Oh LORD..HERE WE GO YET AGAIN!!!:-0



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