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Quote from -Delve into Jesus.
"If you're looking for the passage where Jesus says "I am the son of God", you're going to be dissapointed. He never said those exact words (or at least, they are not recorded for us.) I don't find this very surprising. At the company where I work, I have never heard the president of the company say, "I am the president of this company." Yet, everyone knows it. We know it because he acts and behaves as though he is. This morning we all got an email from him explaining our first quarter results and describing his vision for the rest of the year. Everyone talks about him being the president. I have heard him talk about how he started this company 20 years ago. Yet, never once have I heard him say, "I am the president of this company."
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Context
<< John 10 >>
New American Standard Bible
35“If he called them gods, to whom the word of God came (and the Scripture cannot be broken), 36do you say of Him, whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world, ‘You are blaspheming,’ because I said, ‘I am the Son of God’? 37“If I do not do the works of My Father, do not believe Me; 38but if I do them, though you do not believe Me, believe the works, so that you may know and understand that the Father is in Me, and I in the Father.” 39Therefore they were seeking again to seize Him, and He eluded their grasp.
40And He went away again beyond the Jordan to the place where John was first baptizing, and He was staying there. 41Many came to Him and were saying, “While John performed no sign, yet everything John said about this man was true.” 42Many believed in Him there.
Parallel Verses
New American Standard Bible (©1995)
"If he called them gods, to whom the word of God came (and the Scripture cannot be broken),
GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
The Scriptures cannot be discredited. So if God calls people gods (and they are the people to whom he gave the Scriptures),
King James Bible
If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;
Douay-Rheims Bible
If he called them gods, to whom to word of God was spoken, and the scripture cannot be broken;
Darby Bible Translation
If he called them gods to whom the word of God came (and the scripture cannot be broken),
English Revised Version
If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came (and the scripture cannot be broken),
Webster's Bible Translation
If he called them gods, to whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;
Weymouth New Testament
If those to whom God's word was addressed are called gods (and the Scripture cannot be annulled)
World English Bible
If he called them gods, to whom the word of God came (and the Scripture can't be broken),
Young's Literal Translation
if them he did call gods unto whom the word of God came, (and the Writing is not able to be broken,)
Cross References
John 10:34 Jesus answered them, "Has it not been written in your Law, 'I SAID, YOU ARE GODS '?
John 10:36 do you say of Him, whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world, 'You are blaspheming,' because I said, 'I am the Son of God '?
>>>http://biblebrowser.com/john/10-35.htm
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Chiangmai
John 10:36
Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?
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I believe it was John that said are you the Son of God, When Jesus ask who do you say that I Am?
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Bob/PKB
(all verses NIV, courtesy of Bible Gateway )
Verses where Jesus directly claims to be the Son of God
John 5:25 I tell you the truth, a time is coming and has now come when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God and those who hear will live.
John 10:36 what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, 'I am God's Son'?
John 11:4 When he heard this, Jesus said, "This sickness will not end in death. No, it is for God's glory so that God's Son may be glorified through it."
John 17:1 After Jesus said this, he looked toward heaven and prayed: "Father, the time has come. Glorify your Son, that your Son may glorify you."
Mark 14:61-62 But Jesus remained silent and gave no answer. Again the high priest asked him, "Are you the Christ, the Son of the Blessed One?" "I am," said Jesus. "And you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Mighty One and coming on the clouds of heaven."
Verses where Jesus indirectly claims to be the Son of God (or God)
Matthew 11:27 "All things have been committed to me by my Father. No one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and those to whom the Son chooses to reveal him."
John 8:58-59 "I tell you the truth," Jesus answered, "before Abraham was born, I am!" At this, they picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus hid himself, slipping away from the temple grounds.
Verses where Jesus allows other to call him the Son of God (or God)
Luke 3:21-22 When all the people were being baptized, Jesus was baptized too. And as he was praying, heaven was opened and the Holy Spirit descended on him in bodily form like a dove. And a voice came from heaven: "You are my Son, whom I love; with you I am well pleased."
Matthew 4:3-7 The tempter came to him and said, "If you are the Son of God, tell these stones to become bread." Jesus answered, "It is written: 'Man does not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God.'" Then the devil took him to the holy city and had him stand on the highest point of the temple. "If you are the Son of God," he said, "throw yourself down. For it is written: "'He will command his angels concerning you, and they will lift you up in their hands, so that you will not strike your foot against a stone.'" Jesus answered him, "It is also written: 'Do not put the Lord your God to the test.'"
John 1:49-50 Then Nathanael declared, "Rabbi, you are the Son of God; you are the King of Israel." Jesus said, "You believe because I told you I saw you under the fig tree. You shall see greater things than that."
Matthew 16:15-17 "But what about you?" he asked. "Who do you say I am?" Simon Peter answered, "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God." Jesus replied, "Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by man, but by my Father in heaven."
John 11:25-27 Jesus said to her, "I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in me will live, even though he dies; and whoever lives and believes in me will never die. Do you believe this?" "Yes, Lord," she told him, "I believe that you are the Christ, the Son of God, who was to come into the world."
John 20:28 Then he said to Thomas, "Put your finger here; see my hands. Reach out your hand and put it into my side. Stop doubting and believe." Thomas said to him, "My Lord and my God!" Then Jesus told him, "Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed."
Verses where the narrator of a gospel calls Jesus the Son of God (or God)
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
('The Word' is Jesus, as is obvious from verse 14: 'The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us'.)
John 1:18 No one has ever seen God, but God the One and Only, who is at the Father's side, has made him known.
John 3:16-18 (These in fact may be the words of Jesus - the original Greek had no quote marks so it's not always clear). For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God's one and only Son.
John 20:31 But these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name.
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" Simon Peter answered, "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God."
Who was the living God? Living means on the physical planet(earth). When was Jesus's father here on earth? Unless Joseph was a living God and the bible forgot to include that tidbit or chose to not make it clear that we are all gods in our own right given that Soul is a particle of God.
Let's put John 10:36 back into context:
John 10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? John 10:35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken; John 10:36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God? John 10:37 If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not. John 10:38 But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him.
From what I read, Jesus was saying, If they were gods, then so too was he as they all came from the same father. "the Father is in me, and I in him." Here he speaks of Soul. Soul is a particle of God, and as we all contain Soul then each of us is a particle of God, we are all gods or at the least sons and daughters of God. The Jewish people had it correct. Jesus agreed and called himself son of God too.
As for John 3:16-18, though it's interesting the author you borrowed this write up from had this to say: (These in fact may be the words of Jesus - the original Greek had no quote marks so it's not always clear)......Come now, if these were truly words spoken by Jesus, don't you think someone maybe even Jesus himself would have made it QUITE clear the MAN himself spoke them? If Jesus spoke these words, would they not read, "For God so loved the world that he gave me, his one and only Son, that whoever believes in me shall not perish but have eternal life." (Quotation marks included).
I believe all of what you posted simply shows that Jesus believe we are all sons and daughters of God and that we are all gods as 'we are in the father and the father is in us'. None of this proves Jesus is the one true God, the creator.
I can't explain Him or my faith. It's fantastical in so many aspects, and I'm the first to wonder how anyone can believe all that...but I do. It's not easy, but I believe it is the truth and that's how I roll.
There are as many conceptions of faith as there are members here. Every time someone takes a jab at Christians, it hurts, but that's OK. We are all adults here, for the most part, and have a lifetime of experiences to affect the faith (or lack of) that works for us.
All I did here was provide an answer to a question, and I Googled it.
I understand not wanting to get into a debate. There are days when I just do not want to either so I'll let this one go with the thoughts you expressed already if you do not wish to take this further. I do understand.
..but that's just me. No excuses. I just think God wants us using our hearts and brains.
And yes, the verses were pulled right out of context; like I said, I Googled and got this resource, which seemed pretty succinct, but in not one of them does He come right out and verify it.
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In the New Testament, Jesus is confessed as the one who is beyond all comparison. But this confession did not come as an obvious first response to Jesus. In fact, it appears as if some of Jesus' followers did not come to this confession until after his death and resurrection. Prior to those events, Jesus' followers developed opinions of him using categories similar to our contemporary world. That is, they characterized Jesus according to comparisons between him and people they heard about or knew from experience. Thus, some said Jesus belonged to the category of the prophets, an Isaiah type maybe, or even someone as great as John the Baptist (cf. Mt 16.14). That is who people "say that I am".
But that opinion proved to be unacceptable. Why? Because Jesus proved to be different from all experienced categories. His relation to God, his love and compassion, his authority and freedom went beyond all comparisons with other people. The decisive moment of awareness for his followers came at the time of his resurrection. In light of that event, Jesus' followers remembered that they, in fact, never were satisfied with what other people said about him according to the "law of comparison". After the resurrection they knew with certainty that Jesus is in a category that is unique, particular, singular, never known before - or since. And his singularity lies neither in his teaching nor his example, but in his person: "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God".
Note: Living - a character applied to the Supreme Being, not only to distinguish him from the dead idols of paganism, but also to point him out as the source of life, present, spiritual, and eternal.
In this confession, Peter identifies Jesus with the "messenger of the covenant" in Malachi 3.1, thus claiming that in Jesus we see the guarantee that God is faithful to God's covenant promises. The title "Christ" in fact means "anointed one", and affirms that Jesus fulfils the Old Testament prophecies pointing to the coming of the messiah. The name "son of God" is equally messianic, and designates Jesus as God's partner and instrument in fulfilling the covenant (cf. Mt 4.3,6; 11.27; Mk 1.11; Lk 1.35; Jn 20.31; Rom 1.3; 8.3f; Gal 4.4; Heb. 1.2).
Perhaps we should pause here to raise a question about the title "son of God". In the long history of Christian faith there has been a great deal of controversy about the time when Jesus' sonship began. Did Jesus become the "son of God" at the time of his exaltation (cf. Acts 2.36), or through the resurrection (Rom 1.3f), or at his baptism (Mk 1.11), or with his conception and birth (Lk 1.35), or before creation (Col 1.16), or was he already Son from eternity (Jn 1.1-17; Rom 8.3; Phil. 2.6; Heb. 1.2f)? This variety in time designations in the New Testament is because all the writers want to maintain two crucial points at the same time: Jesus' sonship is from eternity; and it realizes itself in a history of growth, struggle and obedience. The deity and humanity of Jesus must be held together when we join Peter in confessing, "You are the Christ, the Son of the Living God."
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