JoshuaJ
I'm still looking for the other article. It might take some time as I was searching from link to link on another matter when I came across the dispelling of this prophecy you mentioned here. Has something to do with the time frame, the same as what you will find in the article I've given you the link for. These prophecies were not meant for thousands of years into the future. So far, no prophesies record have come true with 100% accuracy, something the rules of Deuteronomy require in order to validate them and not have them cast down as a false prophecy.
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Bob/PKB
Ed1530
nogradiremete
The Bible is a God-inspired book. The oldest teaching in the Word. It is eternal. Human can not create same or similar writings, bacause these are beyond time and space. The people are limited. The teaching of Bible are boundless. Limited can not create unlimited things.
| 11 years ago. Rating: 11 | |
The bible was written by humans about a human. This human was not made a God until long after he died when a new religion needed a God for it's worshipers to follow. The religion was founded by Paul but the bible did not appear on the scene until almost 1,500 years later. The bible is a collections of short stories, songs and debatable verses written by men who contradicted themselves on occasion. I do not see a lot of God at work here. Just a lot of faithful followers keeping the illusion alive.
The teachings of the bible are no different than the US Constitution. They work for any generation but they say the same thing year after year, after year, without change unless man amends the words. The bible's teachings does have a limit. The teaching ends when Jesus ends. Then the church simply starts all over again from the beginning.
The old brainwashing technique of continuously repeating the same ole messages over and over and over and over until it becomes so thoroughly drilled into a persons brain, they can see only the message as reality.
http://www.angelfire.com/sc3/myredeemer/Evidencep3.html
God so thoroughly vindicated Jesus Christ that even mathematicians and statisticians, who were without faith, had to acknowledge that it is scientifically impossible to deny that Jesus is the Christ.
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/radio034.htm
FISH-O
Josh ... Can you cut to the chase please? You seem to have an agenda. So far this has been a painful journey. State your point. Is this an end of the world "The Awakening" thing or not?
| 11 years ago. Rating: 10 | |
Oh shoot! That could be the Devil them there speaking through moi!
Ann
lindilou
You want supernatural? Come out to the Island man...I'll introduce you to some supernatural...big...hairy...'bout 9 feet tall...leave big freakin' footprints...that scare Bears away...Good grief! I have studied so many renditions of the bible it'd make your eyes fall out...here...let me do a favor so you don't waste your time.Begin with an Ethiopian Bible...then study the Dead Sea Scrolls for awhile...not years.You could probably get into the Lost Gospels especially the Sophia of Jesus Christ...you'll love that only if you can comprehend what the Master means in a deeper sense than the translations to English permit.Also read the beautiful Upanishads...for fun!Last but certainly not the least please read absolutely every word ever written by the sage and scholar Joseph Krishnamurti...now go Grasshopper.Peace.
| 11 years ago. Rating: 8 | |
padovenick
There are aproximately 2500 prophesies contained in the bible, over 2000 of those have already been fulfilled. This is territory worth traveling, but can not be adequately addressed here...in my humble opion. peace
| 11 years ago. Rating: 7 | |
Then you have no prove.......?
Yes, there is proof and when the time is right, all those truths are going to come tumbling down onto you. I hope you can handle them.
It is not impossible to have a discussion with me. I will give you my opinion based on my beliefs according to what you give as opinion based on your beliefs. I do not need to pit my path against your religion. God is in no religion. God is within you. Remove religion and you merely remove dogma, you do not remove God. Listen not to the voices of men. Connect to God and what you need to know will be shown to you. Each person is unique and on their own individual path. Religion is set up with a bee hive mentality. All thinking the same and all working for the same agenda, whether it applies to their path or not. There is no room for freedom of will or expression. This is not what God meant for his Souls. It's hard to have any good discussion with a person who can not think out side the boundaries of the box they've placed them self in. Your only agenda is to prove you are right and all others are wrong. That's a lonely path to walk but it's your choice. I bid you the best in you agenda. I however can not be swayed to go back to spiritual kindergarten. The Christian religion can only take Souls so far. There is so much more out there to know and learn and understand. When you are ready, you yourself will seek further. When that time comes, God will show the way, not me and not another. Trust in God to know what is right for you.
The power of Islam was perceived as a particular threat to Christianity. By 1095 Islamic Turks had conquered Jerusalem, and Pope Urban II proclaimed a "holy war" or Crusade to rout the Muslims and to reclaim Palestine for the Christian faith.
"The noble race of Franks must come to the aid their fellow Christians in the East. The infidel Turks are advancing into the heart of Eastern Christendom; Christians are being oppressed and attacked; churches and holy places are being defiled. Jerusalem is groaning under the Saracen yoke. The Holy Sepulchre is in Moslem hands and has been turned into a mosque. Pilgrims are harassed and even prevented from access to the Holy Land.
Colleen
It can not be proven. The bible was not meant to be taken literally. It's a matter of faith, not fact. You still have not posted even one prophesy with an event linked to it that is totally clear that the event was the one from prophesy.
Now, you need to relax on your agenda to push your personal beliefs here. We are a help forum, not a platform for JoshuaJ to try and convert people to his religion.
| 11 years ago. Rating: 6 | |
Before you judge what I have just said, please, just let me show you, peace Colleen.
Welcome to Remnant Fellowship Churches, located in home settings and churches around the world. We are a growing community of worshipful, adoring believers of God and His Son, Jesus Christ, whose lives were immediately set free from many life-long addictions from which no one was able to be set free even after attending all representing denominations in the United States and even in the world. We tried it all. Jesus said that the Truth would set you free, and those who are free are free indeed.
People in the Remnant have been set free. Many were healed of sins and desires that they had been trapped in including overeating, alcoholism, gambling, drugs, sexual sins, greed for money, and the list goes on and on. As a result of being set free, our health is better – it’s superior. Our marriages are strong. Our families are strong. Our children are growing up sound. Finances have been healed and people have, obviously in this place, been set free from depression. We’re actually a very ecstatic group.
jhharlan
JoshuaJ; I have absolutely no idea why you insist on arguing about the subject of your religion. As far as I understand (I have read the Bible and I do know it's origins. I have also been to many different churches in earnest), the words of Jesus are peaceful and loving messages. The Bible sets forth the examples of being a good and pure human being. I take the messages to heart even though I don't practice your faith.
You are a very upsetting person.
I wouldn't go to your church based solely on your desire to disrupt. If this is what is taught in your church, then keep it to yourself.
| 11 years ago. Rating: 5 | |
Headless Man
More proof:
1. The bible touches on an astounding remarkable evidence of History ,Science, Mathematics AND Medicine in detail. It also has embedded Numeral Mathematics within the words, as well as THOUSANDS of Bible codes threaded within and throughout the BIBLE.
2. Prophecy can be found in the celebrations- God set up 5 exciting celebrations in Lev 23 Today some celebrate Christmas, Easter, and Halloween, but did you know the Jewish festivals all contained celebrations that set up furture events that would occur? It is kind of neat that all the celebrations were on the exact same day that either Jesus was born , and in the exact place, or that the holy spirit was given.
3. Here is another distinction. In all of the old testiment prophecies that talk about “the comming messiah” FOUND in the bible codes in the very line of the prophecy is Jesus’s name. YUP!! The Jews would finally wake up to know that that messiah they are waiting for is Jesus.
4. There are 2,000 prophecies that discuss past events which have come to pass (proven correct), future prophecies and 300 prophecies (ALL proven correct and detailed) on the implications about the life, INCLUDING the death, and resurrection of Jesus. An honest study of biblical prophecy will compellingly show the divine authorship of the Bible. NO OTHER religion has this.
5. The Messiah would have had 456 identifying characteristics; Jesus had them all.
6. Jesus DID NOT manipulate events to fulfill prophecy Such as The Place of the Messiah’s birth (Micah 5:2). , The Date of the Messiah’s birth (Daniel 9:25). Manner of birth of the Messiah (Isaiah 7:14), The Manner of death of the Messiah (Zechariah 12:10; Psalm 22:16 prophesied before the invention of crucifixion). , Piercing in side of that Messiah (Zechariah 12:10).The Details of the Burial of the Messiah(Isaiah 53:9).Executers dividing up Jesus’ clothes after he died on the cross
7.AN EARTHQUAKE and an Eclipse Happened while Jesus was dying on the cross.Sited by MANY NON Biblical Sources (13 in total)
8. At the very moment Jesus died, the temple curtain tore in half that was once used to seperate the holy place of God . The curtain was 60 feet in height, 30 feet in width and 4 inches thick
This is only some basic evidence for Jesus. Buddha didn’t rise from the dead, (Jesus had more than 400 witnesses of his appearance after he died) nor did Confucius or Zoroaster. Muhammad or Maitreya didn’t fulfill detailed prophecy. Alexander the Great, nor did Joseph Smith raise the dead or heal the sick. There is far less reliable information written about these “religious” leaders, yet they are followed by millions, OR JUST completly ignored by athiets.
The point is there is so much more evidence for Jesus in astronomy, in biology, in healings and demonic deliverance to touch on some interesting topics….. BUT, here is how it effects you. If all the evidence is true, then you should look into what he said. Your eternity depends on it.
“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” John 3:16)
| 11 years ago. Rating: 5 | |
rick screen
Russrocks
witchway
Never has there been proof of any religion having been supernaturaly inspired. Today's age is filled with just as much mystery as it was in the beginning. Different paths sprout as we ALL seek to find the Devine. We are ALL searching for the same thing, only walking down different paths. It's a process of discovery that feeds our needs and is different and personal for everyone. Happy searching.
| 11 years ago. Rating: 3 | |
You can show proof, but people will deny it just as they did when Jesus walked the earth and people saw the miracles.
| 11 years ago. Rating: 2 | |
Jack Large
They are the non-believers those who have eyes but they can not see, have ears, but can not hear, have a brain but can not reason, the wonders of Gods universe.
One does not need to be a Christan to believe there is a God. All of the established religions have a God.
I was once asked why, as an intelligent highly educated person, do you believe in God and have done so many good works?
I told them because I DO believe, if I'm wrong and there is nothing more than our life here on Earth it will make no difference, in the end.
However if YOUR disbelief is WRONG, there could be a HELL of a difference. ;)
| 11 years ago. Rating: 2 | |
philipdalton
If prophecy based would be preffered here, then so be it. Here are a few facts, read and judge for yourself:
"You are going to hear of wars and reports of wars; see that you are not terrified".
Wars have always occurred throughout history, but never on such a grand scale as in the past 100 years. There has never been a time before this period when the whole world has been at war with each other, yet since then it has happened twice. One British historian wrote: “The 20th century was the most murderous in recorded history. . . . It was a century of almost unbroken war, with few and brief periods without organised armed conflict somewhere.” A report from the Worldwatch Institute states: “Three times as many people fell victim to war in [the 20th] century as in all the wars from the first century AD to 1899.” More than 100 million people have died as a result of wars since 1914.
"For nation will rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be food shortages and earthquakes in one place after another"
Researchers say that food production has increased greatly during the past 30 years. Nevertheless, food shortages continue because many people do not have enough money to buy food or land on which to raise crops. In developing countries, well over a billion people have to live on an income of a dollar or less a day. The majority of these suffer from chronic hunger. The World Health Organization estimates that malnutrition plays a major role in the deaths of more than five million children each year. According to the U.S. Geological Survey, since 1990 alone an average of 17 earthquakes per year have been powerful enough to damage buildings and crack the ground. And on an average, earthquakes strong enough to cause total destruction of buildings have occurred yearly. Another source states: “Earthquakes have claimed hundreds of thousands of lives in the last 100 years and improvements in technology have only slightly reduced the death toll.”
"and there will be great earthquakes, and in one place after another pestilences and food shortages"
Despite medical advances, old and new diseases plague mankind. One report says that 20 well-known diseases—including tuberculosis, malaria, and cholera—have become more common in recent decades, and some types of disease are increasingly difficult to cure by means of drugs. In fact, at least 30 new diseases have appeared. Some of them have no known cure and are fatal. The Spanish influenza alone killed about 20,000,000 people following World War I—some estimates being 30,000,000 or more. AIDS is another major epidemic which has resulted in the deaths of millions. Each year millions of people die of heart ailments, cancer, and other diseases.
"Because of the increasing of lawlessness the love of the greater number will cool off."—
In recent years there has been a major increase in crime throughout the Earth. Asia Times reports: “Once Japan was among the safest countries in the world . . . Now, however, the once-cherished sense of personal safety appears antiquated, and national security has been supplanted by deep anxiety about crime and global terrorism.” Patrick Burton, a crime researcher, stated in the Financial Mail: “Fear of crime permeates every aspect of young South Africans’ lives.” This includes “violent crimes such as aggravated robberies, hijacking and bank heists,” says the paper. In regard to a UNICEF report about the state of children and crime, The Times of London noted: “Increasing numbers of young Britons are dying at the point of a gun. . . . Victims and perpetrators of gun crime are getting younger and younger.” The prison population in England and Wales ballooned to almost 80,000 in 2008.
| 11 years ago. Rating: 2 | |
JoshuaJ
Anyone can see evil. Quit trolling.
| 11 years ago. Rating: 0 | |
This was dead for days and you have brought it back.
You called Colleen out and now who is trolling?
@ Colleen, I've been able to see the evil in this world since I was a kid, didn't take a grand revelation to find this out on my own. Just look at the progression of what is allowed on t.v. now and 60 years ago. Satan will use many wordly distractions to corrupt us and keep us out of our Bible's.
| 11 years ago. Rating: 0 | |
By the way, you do not hold the title for evil seer. I'm pretty sure most of the worlds population recognizes the evils in the world. As for TV, I do not watch it simply because of what is shown on it. Simple. Parents should learn that lesson too and keep their kids from watching TV.
I will if you want me to. You're sounding very bitter by calling me that. I am a moderator and I do my job well. That's why one year later, I am still a moderator here.
