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    who will the antichrist be?

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    Colleen

    Moderator
    A believer in Christ. Could it be you Joshua? I do not like your ways. I do not like the war on Catholics you are trying to promote here. Back off now or leave this forum.

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    My humble answer to this question is inspired by the King James version of the Holy Bible. In the Bible the word antichrist is seldom used but rather the word whore is used in its stead in the book of Revelation. In chapter 19 of the book of Revelation, God casts judgement upon the great whore. (verse 2...For true and righteous are his judgements for he hath judged the great whore, which did corrupt the earth with her fornication, and hath avenged the blood of his servants at her hand...V3...and again they said allelu'ia and her smoke rose up forever and ever) my interpretation of this is that God passed judgement on the great whore who corrupted the earth and condemned her to hell to burn for eternity. If I am not mistaken,  the role of the antichrist is to corrupt the earth. But who, oh who is this great whore who is so adept at corruption? For a detailed description of the great whore one can turn to chapter 17 of the book of Revelation (i would type the whole thing but for the sake of brevity i will point out and later explain a few key verses) verse 4...And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication ...V6... and i saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when i saw her i wondered with great admiration....V9...And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth....V12 and the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast...V15...And he saith unto me,the waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth,are peoples, and multitudes, and nations and tongues....V18 and the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.....it may seem that i have taken these verses out of context and will twist their meaning to make my point but if you have a brain stem and actually read the whole chapter you will see this is not the case.


    Here we go...purple and scarlet robes are donned in most catholic ceremonies in Vatican city, the pope has access to the most money, precious stones and pearls on Earth.


    The catholic church is well known to recognize and pray to saints and the martyrs of Jesus.


    The woman sits on her post of seven mountains, Vatican City is located in Rome, Italy. Rome is also well known as the city of seven hills ( there are other "cities of seven hills" but that term is most commonly associated with Rome).


    Before the end of times the bible prophesies that there indeed will be only ten kingdoms on the earth ( not ten countries but ten kingdoms) many scholars believe these kingdoms have already begun to form starting with the European Union officially formed under this name in 1993. with its origins beginning in 1958. The EU has been heavily influenced by the catholic church since its inception. There are other Unions (or kingdoms) well on their way.


    The fact that Catholicism is one of the worlds largest religions plays right into verse 15 and needs no explanation. 


    Finally in verse 18 "the great city that reigneth over the kings of the earth" is there any institution other than the catholic church, that the Kings of the earth willingly submit to that is also a city?.....I challenge anyone to disprove that the catholic church is indeed the antichrist.

    JoshuaJ

    WOW. Best answer I've got so far, thanks!

    There is no such thing. Never was never will be. Only in Dualism where everything is perceived as opposite some other thing can such a ridiculous notion seem to have merit. Dualism divorces the will and way of God where there seems to be some mythical opposit of Love. The good~bad belief crap enslaves it adherents in a morass of conflict and contradictions in every conceivable way.   

    nomdeplume

    The Zoroastrians belived in the two-god system, Ahura Mazda, the good guy and Ahriman the baddy. Not a popular religion today but influenced Judaism, Gnosticism, Christianity and Mithraism.
    JoshuaJ

    Influenced Chrristianity? Gonna need some proof, and for anyone out there that has watched Zeitgeist and accepted a doctrine of the devil needs to do some further investigation.
    nomdeplume

    Personally I believe neither in gods nor devils but Zoroastrainism influenced other religions until Islam arrived. If Christians believe in the Holy Trinity and Satan it seems to me that it is a 4 god religion.

    I have looked this up and there are several choices to choose from (I know!  Who knew!?!)


    Maitreya


    Lucifer


    Mabus


    Mitt Romney


    Satan


    Pick one.  Any one. 


    Vote now... www.pickthedemon.com


     

    doolittle

    What about Mitt??? Look at what he did to his dog!!!
    FISH-O

    What did Mitt do to his dog?
    Colleen

    Moderator
    Mitt Romney tied the family dog on the roof of his car in an airtight container then drove for 12 hours to Canada.
    FISH-O

    Added!!!

    "" I'm the antichrist. Cute aren't I?

    bowlesy

    hell eggplant,i`v got hair like that.............

    Isn't the antichrist supposed to be someone who is embraced by the whole world as being its savior? We do not KNOW who this will be.  I don't want to point fingers anywhere on this; this person will fool many; I don't think (s)he is in the forefront of recognition at this point....perhaps hasn't even been born yet.

    No one knows.

    Think he lives at my place!!!! name Oliver,and in the form of a feline

    doolittle

    What was the name of the movie with Denzel Washington where, at the end, the body of the guy who the devil is using dies, and it's preety clear that the devil slips into the cat that's walking by?????
    bigben

    Hey doolittle, I'm not sure but I think it was called "Fallen"
    lambshank

    hey Doo, I think he walked right in my door, I have spent the last 30 min chasing yet another one of his presents (mouse) he has fallen asleep bored with the whole thing

    Some say the present Pope, Benedict XVI is the antichrist. He is certainly going the right way to destroy the Roman Catholic Church with his refusal to consider women priests and married priests.

    bowlesy

    the catholic church is in total chaos
    doolittle

    and people are hopping out of the Catholic Church in the US like fleas!!!
    pioneer2

    nomde... : The Catholic Church has held that view LONG LONG LONG before Pope Benedict XVI. Hardly find him as unusual as you seem to.

     


    “Antichrist.” by Anthony Lane October 26, 2009


    Charlotte Gainsbourg and Willem Dafoe in Lars von Trier’s new movie.


    http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/cinema/2009/10/26/091026crci_cinema_lane#ixzz1rHNLfsSh


    ""

    doolittle

    Willem Defoe likes to act in "edgy" religious movies.

    the pope

    JoshuaJ

    If you would elaborate I might give you the best answer if that's worth anything...

    ""

    Oprah

    JoshuaJ

    Interesting, she does have a cult following... She pimps new age books teaching we are all one to her audience, we can now see the new age movement creeping into Christianity, truly frightening.
    Colleen

    Moderator
    Christianity is frightening. Just look at you Joshua. Trying to start a war against the Catholics. I do not see you as a follower of Christ. This was not his way.
    JoshuaJ

    A war against the Catholics? I am a Christian, there's not many of us left that know the truth. Go ahead and shut my account down, maybe a few people heard some truth... Colleen, you are a tyrant bent on limiting people's opinions that you do not agree with, no one has said anything to prove me false so instead of proving me wrong just ban me, that would be easier, peace.
    Colleen

    Moderator
    You are not a holder of the truth. You and your beliefs are dangerous. I warned you from the start that all religions are to be respected here. This is the rule of the owners and administration of this forum. I make sure their rules are followed. This is not your church, your pulpit nor your battlefield. You will conquer no Catholics here. You are not a follower of Christ. You follow a dark god and you spread his darkness. Christ is light, you shine no light.
    Ducky

    Moderator
    JoshuaJ..."I am a Christian, there's not many of us left that know the truth."
    There are more Christians around than you might think...some are quieter about it than others. Have you read anywhere in the Bible, the words "in love and humility"? That seems to be missing in your presentation!

    The antichrist is a thing not a person as explained by:


    http://www.ellisskolfield.com/

    Headless Man

    I will later, i am limited to 4GB of bandwidth a month and can't squeeze it in this month......

    Jonathan, You tresspass,Fill the grave you are standing by . Your danger is very real.



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