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Thanks for answering so promptly. You probably will think I am an idiot but I don't understand what you mean!!! My present Nokia is a pay as you go and I use the Virgin Network. When we go to South Africa we usually take two phones one for my UK sim and we buy a local sim in S.A. I thought if I buy theSamsung Dual sim phone it would save me taking 2 phones I am totally clueless about phones computers etc. and when questioning a retailer here all I am told is make sure its quadband and make sure the S.A sim will work??? How can I find that out??? Sorry to be so thick!!!! Thanks again