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    My granddaughter is 10. We have attornies, I have asked the Police, DSS,

    and I even went higher and apparantly they do not find PAS a form of child abuse. I am helpless, but I feel as though in order to keep her save I should take her and run.


    My situation is horrible and I am desperate. Whatever happened to it takes a village to raise a child? No village wants to help her and she has told teachers, Social workers, Police officers!

    +3  Views: 728 Answers: 10 Posted: 13 years ago

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    PAS (Parental Alienation Syndrome) :  If the DSS (Department of Social Services) and the police can't help, keep screaming until your voice is heard.


    http://www.breakthroughparenting.com/PAS.htm


     


    You have no time to waste.  Good luck!!!!!


     


     


     

    Yvonne57

    Moderator
    - is PAS the same as neglect? I've never heard of it.
    Chiangmai

    I am sure it's part of it.
    mycatsmom

    Thank you, Chiangmai, for interpreting what she said .

    Please reply to people in the first question you asked about this. Opening new questions to continue with one subject gets confusing as we are all volunteers here and come to the forum at different times. So we do not always know what a second post concerning an already posted question means. You will get less responses to your issue this way. I know you can see the answers to your questions so while there and reading them, click to comment link to reply back to the person who commented to you.

    No apoligies are nessacary.. You have found a great group of ppl here that will give you the best advise we know how. I am concerned for you daughter and her situation. There are just those times when the court system fails us. The Family court system is so over run with fasle claims and inflamitory testamony, that they over look cases like your. I am so sorry for your situation. GOOD LUCK!


    On a personal note. My mom RAN with me when i was 3. I never net my father. HE died 6 mo before I found him at age 24. My mother never gave me any info on him.  Ihad to track him down on me own. After she found out I was going to meet his family. She gave me directions to his house. I have had a hard time forgiving her.

    Yvonne57

    Moderator
    Jenn, I don't think your Mom did that to hurt you. Maybe she thought she was protecting you. I'm sorry he died before you got to meet him. My Dad died too right before I found him. Did you ever ask your Mom questions about him? If so, did she give you answers or did she talk bad about him?
    Jenn

    I am not mad at her.. I never was.. I was hurt that she lied so so much. She told me she didnt know any of his families bame and did not know where he was from... Just too many lies to talk about... I am fully aware that she only did what she did to protect me. I would not be the person I am with him in my life. She did the right thing. But there was no need to lie. No need to protect an adult from the trith. And to come clean like it was no big deal after years of begging for imformation, was too much for me to swollow. We love her and forgive her. And I am proud that I was so loved she would live a lie for me. I was just hurt.

    ???

    Colleen

    Moderator
    This is pertaining to another question she/he asked. She/he created a new question to use as a comment to reply back to a comment someone left her/him.

    The "Granddaughter" was a simple error. I meant my 10 year old daughter.


    I am trying to motion the court to terminate her grandparental rights, in a way, "suing" but the Judge has final say on whether he feels it needs another hearing. I do not have time, because SHE may take her and disappear. She threatens me with it all the time.


    My daughter's father lost all rights when she was 9 months old. And, he still lives with his mother. He must leave the home if my daughter is there. On overnight visits, my daughter and Grandmother go to her daughters,home, which is closer to my home.


     


    Thank you everyone, and my most sincerest apologies for what I did. I am just trying to see if I can find anyone with a similar problem and brought this issue to the wrong place, and I am sorry for that as well. I feel like an idiot, LOL!

    Mmouse

    No need to apologise, you have a stressful situation. Suggest you ask for a Child Advocate, a non family member that can assess the situation. Guardian Ad litem (sp?)

    Your first question indicates "YOUR DAUGHTER", this question indicates "GRANDDAUGHTER", now which is it?  Secondly Alienation of affection is inappropiate, grounds for denial of vistations and one can be sued for such behavior.

    Ann

    I have noticed the same thing

    @ Coleen I am so sorry. This is my very first time on this site, well, actually I just entered the site now, I was just using the toolbar on my friend's lap top. I am very, very sorry. It will never happen again.


    I have tried to keep her from the visits, and I have sat in jail for contempt. My daughter has even told the Police officers that are called to assist in custody exchange, but the court order is the only thing. I am motioning for modification, but as far as significant changes, it seems that I am crying wolf and gone crazy!


    The problem is this state does not recognize this as a crime, not even abuse! Although Emotional and Verbal abuse to a significant other that you are romantic with is considered Domestic Violence, emotional and verbal abuse to a child is nothing. I have so much evidence and my daughter's Psychiatrist even has proof it is like there is no problem as long as she is fed, properly groomed, goes to school, has basic mandatory needs met and no bruises, alls well!


    I just got home from my attorney and I am at the end of my rope here. I really think my only choice is to run. She is in physical and emotional danger and NOONE cares here that should! I am baffled! I have even told the DSS I am willing to keep her in foster care than her spend one more minute with this woman. And her summer visits are coming up!!


    Again, I am sorry for posting multiple times. I just finally came on to the actual site, not just the toolbar.

    Colleen

    Moderator
    No worries raytk, we all know you're new. Now that you know your way around and know how to get back here, welcome! You have no idea how many post and then disappear ;)

    Don't apologize. Why do you have to go to court to terminate the grandparents' rights ? What rights ?  If you have custody of your child, then why would the grandparents rights superceed yours ?  It's your child, right ?  It's too bad kids have to be used as pawns and be bounced back and forth.

    What has she told them, that she was sexually abused, or / and physically abused, or what ?

    Don't feel like an idiot. If your daughter is being abused it's hard. If it was me, I'd take off, but I don't wish to give you the wrong advice. What do your lawyers say? If the grandmother takes off with your daughter, wouldn't that be kidnapping or abduction? She could go to goal.



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