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    I ask you how does this happen so much in USA,..

    Other countries have guns,but mainly USA has so many shootings where the law shoots a citizen that they did not have to,do the cops work under that much fear.????..>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<..https://denver.cbslocal.com/video/3909422-man-shot-killed-by-police-was-vietnam-veteran/

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    Well, I suppose the police in the USA must assume that most incidents they are called to may involve a firearm, therefore instilling a certain amount of self preservation, that darn second amendment has many innocent lives to answer for IMHO, the USA are good allies to have around but fortunately most of the Worlds governments don't have to live under an archaic constitution that nearly all of their citizens believe in, che sera sera!

    terryfossil 1

    A very sad end to a man who had put his life on the line for his country with heroic efforts,he received medals for his action in Vietnam,comes home to become a federal agent,then gets killed by a cop,,no mate that aint right no matter which way you turn it..>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<..
    ROMOS

    I never said it was right, but it is the American curse I suppose.

    I dunno what to say or answer. It all frightens me. Especially when the shooting didn’t have to end in somebody’s death. James was getting food from a dumpster when all of the sudden there was a gun just inches  from his head. Inches is too far away, it was close. It was a cop. Just happened by and saw him SEARCHING FOR FOOD! I don’t know why the gun was even drawn. Yeppers, the cops seem to be out of control of themselves. Can’t really blame them but absolutely more training needs to be applied. And people are shooting as well. The shooting in Dallas comes to mind. 5 or 7 cops were gunned down, killed by someone who just wanted to kill cops. Guns. I like that we can own any but for cry yi yi! My 73 year old aunt carries. Her excop husband surely does openly. Open carry scares the daylights outa me. All it takes is some shootist wannabe shoots someone hiding behind the stand your ground laws. Gun owners need to be checked mentally. I never needed to be sold a gun, not with my issues but I've owned several at different times. It’s crazy. I’d love to soap box this subject but I have no answers. Oh, and, I’m afraid of cops...

    Ducky

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    On a much lighter topic....made the salad....delicious! :)
    jhharlan

    duck, I’m sure you let it meld for 24, didn’t you?
    Ducky

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    Of course jh. Why would you think that I wouldn't?
    Ducky

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    Thanks R..sounds good too and no subs needed. :)

    .... I must be missing something, if the intruder was shot/down, why brandish a gun in front of anxious police ?

    terryfossil 1

    He had a right to have a gun,he had just shot the intruder,i do not believe he was pointing the gun at anybody,and he was not asked to stop by police,so why did only one of the police decide to shoot him.or did only one officer wrongly believe they where in danger..>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<>..
    Benthere

    ....he had a right to have a gun and the officer had a right to protect himself/others
    ....see where I am going with this ?
    ....take the gun out of the equation
    Bob/PKB

    THANK YOU, Benthere!
    Terry, what you believe and what actually happened are possibly two very different things. Just saying.
    terryfossil 1

    As i said before we are waiting for the evidence of right or wrong..could be a long wait,but we wait anyway..>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<..

    Having listened to what you posted, and followed up by researching an article, it seems this incident is not as callous as you seem to believe. I am pretty sure not every officer heard Mrs. Black describe what her husband was wearing, AND it was dark, AND Black may have had time to put the gun down before appearing (in enough light to be recognized?). 


    There are very few police shootings that thorough investigations determine the officer was at fault. 


     Do you check the news of every country, or do you have a special interest in the US?

    terryfossil 1

    No Bob,i do not troll through countries police shootings,the Mr. Black shooting was on our 6.00 O'clock news,and it had the same smell about it as when Australian Justine Damond was killed by police in Minneapolis,,i think it has become so matter of fact in USA that people do not ask why but rather look for an excuse to exonerate the police..when in reality it may be about the training of the police,in both cases i have mentioned only one cop has shot the victim,,so 2 of those cops did not think they where in enough danger to shoot..maybe they were trained better....>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<This link is worth reading,i believe it is a fair account,let me know if you agree Bob ..http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-21/justine-damond-mohamed-noor-police-officer-charges/9573122
    Bob/PKB

    Nope, this article is not a comparison of the two incidents. Damond had no weapon. Black was holding a gun. What transpired to cause Black being shot is fuzzy.
    terryfossil 1

    You cannot leave the gun out Bob,in a place where everyone is supposedy armed legally,and niether of the 2 cops were in any danger,one victim armed and placid and one victim not armed,yet both were killed by cops who believed they were in danger,but the 2 cops partners did not shoot,,why the differance..>>>>>>><<<<<<<<..
    Bob/PKB

    I wasn't there, Terry. Neither were any of the people writing about these incidents. Actually LIVING in the US, I could not disagree more with the conclusion that questionable police shootings are commonplace and the police are always the bad guys.
    To answer your question of why two didn't shoot...and, again, I wasn't there...perhaps neither of them was in a position to see Mr. Black holding a gun.
    Like I said, I wasn't there, so I'm not going to jump to condemn anyone without knowing the facts. Too bad you don't do the same.
    terryfossil 1

    Maybe you should re-read what i have said Bob,i am not condemning anyone,i am however asking WHY,police continue to kill people without knowing if they are in danger themselves,,if they are trigger happy then maybe they are in the wrong job..>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<..
    Bob/PKB

    And I am saying you presume police continue to kill "without knowing", trigger happy, etc. with no more evidence than a likely biased news blurb.
    terryfossil 1

    The evidence is very slow getting to us Bob,..>>>>>>><<<<<<<<..

    I think if the cops must shoot someone, they should shoot them with a tazer or tranquilizer gun.

    terryfossil 1

    Fair point MCM,,we have them in Aussie,,they do not work in all instances..>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<..

    I think the police have some degree of fear, but I also know there is a cavalier attitude towards shooting minorities, because it's always been that way in the United States.  We need to step back, calm down and retrain everybody to respect each other, and to help each other in society.

    terryfossil 1

    Nice thoughts Tab,but i think the horse has bolted..>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<..
    tabber

    terryfossil 1, you are right, but you can't give up, got to try something. that's why everyone is running to America. They gave up the fight and let the bad guys take over the state and homelands.


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