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    School Breakfast Programs: Progressive Social Policy or Welfare in Disguise ?

    Child hunger in First World countries exists despite the social safety nets for parents such as, welfare, food banks, charities of various sorts,etc.


    Are parents of such children not responsible for the welfare of their very own kids ?

    +5  Views: 722 Answers: 12 Posted: 12 years ago

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    A little of both I am sure.  I can only say I wish there was a free breakfast or lunch at schools when I was growing up. I was the kid that never ate. Not that we would have been eligible for govt assistance. Just irresponsible selfish parental figures..

    digger

    I think that parental irresponsibility is the cause more often than not. The kids go hungry so the State (taxpayers) ends up doing their job.Paychecks or welfare checks should be garnished instead,in my opinion.
    ed shank

    Jenn, I totally agree.

    I don't care as long as the kids get fed.  Sometimes Breakfast is the only meal they get cause their parents earn just above the poverty line.  Our system is broken.  I don't want an innocent kid to have to starve (not that one meal a day is nearly enough food).

    digger

    Food banks alone should ensure that no kid (and adult) goes hungry. But you did say that how they get fed is not the issue with you, so...
    Jenn

    There are no food banks in rural areas.
    caddam

    FEED THE KIDS FIRST, then fix the parents later

    Certainly parents are responsible, sad fact is some are not,  but for whatever reason I'm, for once happy to pay taxes if it helps these kids to grow into healthy, happy,  adults

    digger

    I think many feel the same way.

    I will take a turkey and cheese sandwich, apple juice, little bag of chips any day over the crap they serve at school. Oh, but the food police said thats not healthy and took that little girls lunch away from her making her eat a school lunch . Chicken nuggets . remember the good old days when they made lunch at school , Now its all processed garbage, but its healthy they say. There is nothing progressive about it.

    20 million US children rely on school programs to keep from going hungry. There are many reasons for that, . In most cases parents have been victims of this recession. I think its a good program and dont mind my tax dollars beeing used for school breakfast programs or lunch programs to feed these children. Its for a good cause.

    Having worked as "The Lunch Lady", a substitute teacher, and a relief person in the cafeterias around my school district, I'm even more opinionated on this than I am on everything else.
    Zorro is right about the food being processed crap.  Frozen this, that, and the other thing. The actual kitchens in half the schools are closed and the food is trucked over from the few that remain open. 
    Secondly, the portions are ridiculous.  Government requirements suggest that a kindergarten-aged child (5-6) be given a portion of spaghetti (for example) that would feed a full-grown man. I am not making this up. The waste in one day at one school would feed half the school for the entire week. At one of the schools, a guy was picking up the wasted food and taking it home to the porcines he was raising.  He had the principal's blessing and cooperation.  At least the food was being put to use.  It was soon learned that the wasted food had to remain wasted and the food remained in the trash.
    The point of feeding children whose parents are unable (for whatever reason) to do so is admirable.  There is something wrong with the system, though; of that there is no doubt.

    digger

    British celebrity-chef Jamie Oliver has been spearheading the healthy food in schools cause with some apparent success. I believe he has or is doing it in the U.S. as well. Not something that will change overnight and the jury is still out as to whether it will catch on in a significant way.
    I believe in fixing problems first and asking questions later but there appears to be no real effort at going after deadbeat,irresponsible parents.
    THAT, I have an issue with.
    Bob/PKB

    digger, I totally agree with you about deadbeat parents. I've had men decide NOT to file tax returns because their refunds would be confiscated for back child support. I've worked in a social welfare office where women pregnant with their 5th, 6th, 7th child don't even know the NAME of the father. Girls who aren't even 13 are having children and keeping them, where their (often) irresponsible parents (and grandparents) are "helping" raise the NEXT generation of irresponsible people.
    Part of me feels that as long as "someone" steps in to rescue the children without getting the parents to get their heads out of their ......, the problem will continue.
    digger

    Bob,It's a sad state of affairs. I may be dreaming in color by believing that garnishing $100.00 a month from their welfare check to pay for the breakfast in school program will force them to spend $20 a month on peanut butter,jam and loaves of bread instead.
    Bob/PKB

    digger, that's a really good idea; PB&J sandwiches are still a good buy and high protein. My church actually does a big PB&J feed once a month and it is well-received in the community. Many of the people at my church would be getting the sandwiches if they weren't making them. The older I get, the more upset I get about people cranking out kids for what they can get for them in cash aid, food stamps, medi-cal (here), free breakfasts and lunches at school, "head start" school programs, section 8 housing, clothes, toys, reduced utility charges and where does it stop?
    I don't blame the children, but children learn what they live. If they live with parents who don't take responsibility for their own welfare, what does the child learn? Now it's a choice...be like mom and/or dad, or make my own way in the world.
    Perhaps the biggest culprit in the "you owe me" mentality is the interfering bureaucrats who never go into the trenches to see what is really going on and feed the idea that "you can't make it without my help".
    digger

    Hear,Hear !
    witchway

    digger, Yes, Jamie Oliver has done more good for children of school age than any government ever has to date! I hope his message doesn't get lost but continues to educate the educators.

    After hearing how many kids don't eat on a regular basis outside of school, I actually don't care what its called, as long as their needs are being met.

    I feel that parents should be responsible for their own children. It's not anyone else's job to feed their children. If parents fail to feed their own children they should be prosecuted.

    digger

    Agreed.
    ed shank

    I second the agreement.
    doolittle

    So, they are prosecuted...but still can't afford to feed there kids...Orphanages cost a lot more per kid per day than a meal or two.
    eggplant

    Doolittle, the government pays quite a bit of money to all parents for their kids. Parents should be prosecuted!!

    Ii suppose it's a little of both but coming from a large family, my folks had it tough.  I am grateful for all the breakfasts that I got..(and paid a reduced price for)...............

    ed shank

    You did contribute, that's my point.

    We had a lunch "room" that sold nothing. The only thing you were going to eat was a chair. We brought our lunch from home. Feeding kids today only sends a message of entitlement. Parents should be made to contribute something.

    I heard of a little boy who could only get rice and gravy for breakfast when his school was not open. He never thought much of it until the other kids found out and kidded him something terrible. So many people at least in the States go out of their way to take advantage of government programs and are always looking for a way to increase their benefits. I really do not see how anything that would be long lasting can help these children and their children until there are some kind of limits placed on breeding.

    in some comments,it is said thats the onley meal some kids will have,  i like to say the young parents,need  to learn how to cook, like we did make something out of nothing,(leftovers) i seen it   on payday the run to fastfood resturant , no leftovers, no money



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