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    Should they use Chimps for Medical Research?

    On Sunrise this morning, one news item was the use of chimps in a laboratory in Texas to study  Hepatitis B & C to cure these diseases. ---- it has cause an outrage with the Animal Rights Org.

    +9  Views: 763 Answers: 14 Posted: 12 years ago
    PEOPLELOVER

    If you watch Sunrise they should use you.

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    This is a great question Bulletman, I struggle with the answer. One one hand I love animals, and on the other if it really can save possibly several thousands of people from suffering or death. I'd have to say test them humanely. I understand many won't agree with this answer, but I have to be honest here.

    bulletman

    Leeroy that's almost the same answer the guy in charge of the facility said, whether it is done humanely, i don't know , he did say however some do die from the reserch.
    Tommyh

    The death would be merciful in most cases.hepatitis is not a pretty disease to see.
    leeroy

    I think this is a difficult question to answer because so many people love animals, myself included. Some people might be reluctant to answer, fearing reprisal.

    @Tommy That makes it a little easier to handle, still a tough question.
    itsmee

    When I saw the question, I had NO answer. I read your answer and there was the way. Thanks, leeroy.
    daren1


    Thumbs up from me Leeroy,A lot of us here enjoy a good steak, fortunitly the majority of us here will never see a cow suffer so that we may indulge..
    leeroy

    Thanks Itsmee, True Daren, I think because of most of the population living in cities, we don't realize the full extent of where the steak or chicken comes from... Good point.

    And so it should cause outrage.There must be a better way.

    bulletman

    Tom, a comment was made, with the technology we now have surely we could come up with results using the computer.

    I'm not really for it , but at the same time Wouldn't want to be the first to try a new drug just because a computer said its aok for human consumption.... 

    bulletman

    IT would mave to be a very sophisticated programme.
    tabber

    Aman.

    In a government sanctioned program in the 1950 children and adult prisoners were subjected to “experiments” that produced a daily harvest of human bodies for autopsy studies.  In the 1930s and on the national eugenics program sponsored forced sterilization  on over 300,000 persons in the US  often for no more reason than that they were illiterate, of mixed ancestry, black or native American. There is always a reason to kill someone, experiment on some one or something. Chimps are used by companies and Universities rather than going after human ginny pigs if they are funded to do so. They could go to any third world country to try it on the populations there selling hair tonic with DDT for a little bribe. There’s lots of horrible things that happen every day. I’m glad it isn’t being tested on school children. 

    leeroy

    O.k. Mr. Pc, lol, I didn't get if you are for or against it...
    robertgrist

    Leeroy…Animal and human testing are immoral for me to sanction and I don’t support those methods of testing. In some cultures testing on earthworms would be considered immoral…but then too, those cultures have a death rate that kills off most of the population before attaining an age and level of fitness sufficient to breed. We live or die according to our choices and I don’t see God suggesting we stop eating chickens or their embryo.

    Well you know what I am going to say NO testing on animals why should they be subjected to grusome trials for our benefit we dont desearve to be saved ....

    tabber

    melandrupert you have one hell of a point, do we really deserve to be saved.
    melandrupert

    tabber I think we should learn by our mistakes but we never do! it just goes on and on thanks for the comment tabber xxxx

    Wow, maybe I could run a animal testing lab then, lol.... Really interesting question! It's really to bad animals have to die for people though, but I suppose if it saves lives the end result is valuable. Thanks for the good Q&A BM.


     

    Hmmm tough issue.. If it helps save one human life then yes..

    Absolutely not. Most countries around the world no longer permit harmful research on Chimps.


    1300 chimps live in laboraries around the US. In the 8os Chimps very activly subjected for study of HIV and AIDS. They were found to be different from humans. When injected with the Virus, they never developed HIV or AIDS. 70 % of drugs that have been tested on Chimps are harmful to  a human fetus.


    Chimps infected with Hepatits B or C will not become sick , but humans will.


    In july 2005 Hepatitis C researchers reported a technology to grow the virus entirely in cell culture. The vaccine for this disease is now made entirely from bacterial culture.


    Using human volunteers with a specific illness in clinical trials are more accurate and humane alternatives to testing drugs in animals like chimps.


    The genomic revolution has given scientists unpararelled tools for engeneering "personalized medicine" Knowing the correlations between human disease and specific genes could allow doctors to prescribe the right drug at the right dose for the right person, based on unique variations in theire DNA, not on the DNA of a chimp, dogs and cats, or even a mouse.


    I personally find this practice of testing on mice, cats and dogs and chimps inhumane and cruel. Chimps were released from laboratory testing for 10 years, because of controversy over DNA  in Chimps not beeng like human DNA and the cruelty to these animals, where most of them spent 40 years in cages and beeing subjected to daily testing.


    For some reason our government is allowing these inhume practises again.  Please call your congressman and tell him we can not allow such inhumane practices to exist.

    bulletman

    Ann, you have the right idea, put enough pressure on the politicians and they 'may'' do something to stop this hidious act.
    melandrupert

    Ann thank you for you write up well done and how true i knew you would be on my side on this thanks love mel xx

    No. If they want to test something , try it on convicts sentenced to life with no parole!

    bulletman

    that would be one way to empty the prisons.
    tabber

    that's a point to ponder.

    I agree., with our advanced society and knowledge base you would think there would be an alternate to this barbaric practice, I know it's relatively insignificant but I only purchase products (such as shampoo etc) that state they  have not been tested on animals, I feel better about risking an allergic reaction than know some poor animal may have been blinded in the process

    bulletman

    Shank, in this day and age mankind should know better -- i totally agree.

    Medical research uses humans all the time for experimenting. We eat animals - If an animal can be sacrificed to save human lives then I say yes.. Maybe it would be better if we took all the hardened criminals we have on the streets, round them up and expierament on them?? I'll go for that too..  

    Bullet what right thinking Australian big bronze Anzac would lower himself to watching "Sunrise" the TV show.


    Mate you just fell through the bottom of the bucket of desperate people.


     


    Lonely women and people strapped in a wheel chair are the only ones that should watch "Sunrise" what a heap of drivvel. Wipe the corners of your mouth for  goodness sake.


     


    Neaxt you will be telling me you read Womans day and all the other waste of good forrest timber magazines.


    Please tell me it was a once off and you were to sick to press the remote.

    bulletman

    PL, it is the only programme worth watching at 5.am, i have no choice, but i like it ,ha ha . you forgot i'm from Sth. Oz the free thinking state not a police state like you know where, lol.
    PEOPLELOVER

    Jeez leave the Tv off or watch the test pattern, anything but these inane Sunrise, Good morning, and what ever other demented shows are on .
    God help us a man watching Sunrise for crying out loud.

    sure they would use us for research if they were more advanced. And when & if  the UFO's come down for real, watch out.

    Vinny

    Planet of the apes????

    Those who are among the outraged should obligate themselves to become an instrument to find a less outrageous means to attain the desired  goal.  ie relief of human suffering and prolonged comforable living.  If you are serious in a belief to the point of outrage then your only recourse is to  do something about it. 


    Outrage is the bump in the road to the desired goal herein.  Do something about the bump and become a hero,  or don't do something, remain outraged and be seen as a talking parrot for the amusement of those who don't give a hoot.


    Until something replaces this kind of testing I can only unwillingly accept it. 


     

    melandrupert

    caddam you have made a good point but I feel that I have done a auwful lot to try and save animals demos ect writing to goverments and ph chemicals ect and it never stops it goes on every day and it will till i die good point though x


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