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    Heaven or Hell?

    Name someone famous who has died whom you believe is Definately in Heaven or Definately in Hell.

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    Colleen

    Moderator

    I don't believe hell exists outside of this planet (or even inside of it for that matter). All are in heaven.

    Colleen

    Moderator

    Yes I do. There are different levels of heaven. Their level is not a playground. They will pay for what they did but even they are of God and will be cleansed and healed. God does not destroy. Remember, you and I see God differently. I do not believe Jesus is God. I believe the Christian religion made him a God but he is not THE God.

    Colleen

    Moderator

    @ Tami, the rest of my family believe in the same God as I do. I come from a rather large family too. We've followed the same path and had the same belief in the same God since I was a young girl so I did not "create" an image of God to cover for my sexuality. Yes, we live as we please and we are responsible for any karma we incur during our lifetimes << yes, lifetimes. We don't just schlep off our debts onto someone else. We take care of them ourselves. Why can't some Christians ever allow people freedom to follow their own paths? All you do is, judge, judge, judge.

    Colleen

    Moderator

    @ dawayne, I do not believe Sodam and 4 other cities of the plain were destroyed by God. I believe the 5 cities were destroyed by some kind of occurrence caused by nature.

    Colleen

    Moderator

    Wait, let me just claim the "only human" defense like you do when you get nasty. I spend most of my time defending myself and my life from you judgers. Deal with it if I get direct with you when answering your belittling comments.

    Colleen

    Moderator

    I've had that peace for years. I am at peace with my God and my existence. I do not have the problem with my sexuality or non acceptance of Christ as God that you have for me. You can't handle it so you claim I have no peace. Sorry, you're wrong. I do not need your prayers and I do not need to be saved. The only times I do not have peace is when others are judging me or stalking me telling me they'll pray for me like I need some kind of saving. I was born a Catholic, I was baptized and had first communion. continued....

    Colleen

    Moderator

    So I do know about Christ. My parents found nothing in the religion, my mother found another path to follow, the rest of the family to this day find that path to be better than what Christianity offers so we are fine, we are happy and we are all at peace with our lives and the way we see God and view him as love and only love with the inability to destroy that which comes from Him, ALL His creations...we all come from Him and are of Him.

    Colleen

    Moderator

    It's there. Look up.

    IluvJesus

    Hell exists here but it's real velocity is in (real) hell,the evils and it's evil doers are not in heaven.Take a look, http://www.fmkusa.com/murderedchildren.html do you honestly believe their killers reside in heaven? Without repenting and truly giving their selves to Jesus,they stand no chance.

    IluvJesus

    I think you have created an image of God in your mind,a God that is under your terms and that allows you to live any way you please,it's all bubble gum and dew drops to you.Consequence is a reality,it's just not realistic to believe it any other way.A murderer unrepentant in heaven with a tap on the hand is just ludicrous.There are true harsh realities on earth,just as there will be after death.

    IluvJesus

    We all Judge,whether we admit it or not,your Judging and at times I have too.

    daren1

    QUESTIONS RATHER VAGUE

    dwayne1716

    TELL THE PEOPLE OF SODAM THAT GOD DOES NOT DESTROY

    dwayne1716

    I DID NOT SAY WHY HE DESTROYED THEM JUST THAT HE DID.

    dwayne1716

    let me clear up a few things about me.i have not started conversing with you for any bad reasons... i have had many gay friends and aquaintences over my 49 years the reason i made my 1st comment about born gay was to add another poss. to the conversation. i do realise its alot harder beeing gay than strait. my only wish for you and any other person that does not know CHRIST AS their savior is that they would have the same peace i have found. my savior has given me peace that i want to share i do not wish anything other than that

    dwayne1716

    can not find the rest of your comment good night

    17 Answers

    The thief on the cross beside Jesus is in Heaven. He was famous. Jesus told him that he would be with Him in Heaven. Not in Heaven is another famous person called Devil. God threw him out on his ear.
    It's hard to say for someone you don't know personally, I know my Mom is in Heaven.
    I would say Sodom Hussein is in hell.
    Isnt it good that light has all power over darkness. If we have two rooms. One full of light and the other dark. Open the door slightly and what happens. The dark room lights up. Its the same when the light of Jesus enters our dark heart. Praise Him

    HEAVEN FOR ME

    There is a word in Scripture which Goes, "there is no need of sun in that place for The Lord is the light thereof". With that said, if hell is separation from God, then those folks must be far from the light. which leads me to believe that there is a great darkness which cannot be fathomed and some folks have ventured there in spirit by the darkness of the life they live. Because they have been in darkness for so long, they do know how to see which requires faith. I believe there is great light and great darkness in that place. The light, is the Lord.

    Your sister,
    Ginger,
    Adreamer2


    Work1ders

    Ok.. maybe I will clarify.. One might say Mother Teresa is definately in Heaven.. on the flip side.. Hitler....

    IluvJesus

    I totally agree!

    IluvJesus

    O boy...you've got to be kidding me.I have heard it all.:/

    larrys

    you are wrong hitler is in heaven. read the book called conversations with god

    The most famous person in entire world is alive and resides in heaven and that person is Jesus Christ. As far as hell is concerned there are many famous people in hell because hell is merely the common grave of mankind. Do some research for yourself and find out the real definition of hell.

    HELL
    A word used in the King James Version (as well as in the Catholic Douay Version and most older translations) to translate the Hebrew she?ohl? and the Greek hai?des. In the King James Version the word “hell” is rendered from she?ohl? 31 times and from hai?des 10 times. This version is not consistent, however, since she?ohl? is also translated 31 times “grave” and 3 times “pit.” In the Douay Version she?ohl? is rendered “hell” 64 times, “pit” once, and “death” once.

    It is, in fact, because of the way that the word “hell” is understood today that it is such an unsatisfactory translation of these original Bible words. Webster’s Third New International Dictionary, unabridged, under “Hell” says: “fr[om] . . . helan to conceal.” The word “hell” thus originally conveyed no thought of heat or torment but simply of a ‘covered over or concealed place.’ In the old English dialect the expression “helling potatoes” meant, not to roast them, but simply to place the potatoes in the ground or in a cellar.

    I believe in heaven and hell,but i know nobody who is definately in either,,there are scriptures that say who will and who will not be in either,,but only God judges you to either..we may look at people and say or think,"that person does not look like they are obeying the scriptures".but if you do that then you have just broke one of the scriptures yourself.."take the log out of your own eye before attempting to take the splinter out of your neighbours eye..>>>>>>><<<<<<<..

    Hitler, the man who was Hitler is alive and well. I met him a few years ago and knew him instantly. He is no threat to anyone and he is a simple house painter. His life was made to serve the will of others when he was in Germany before the Hitler we know of was made from that gentle man. He was saved and reborn to live the life he intended to live before he fell into the hands of those whose ambition and ability was to turn someone into their puppet. He was controlled by his handlers from before WW2 and his handlers are all now dead or non-existent. The war against the human race is over and the last vestiges of those events are fading. The hell so many think is so well deserved is most frequently experienced as isolation. There is simply no one to welcome mass murders so their only recourse is isolation and confinement until they are willing to forgive themselves and accept release. Hell is a product of the duality thought system that was an effort to educate through the recognition of opposites. Conflict and contrast evolves progressive regenerative thinking.

    veteran01

    What have U been smoking Robert?

    robertgrist

    You should try to get out more. Read the Urantia Book and A Course In Miracles to get a glimpse of what you think is so unreal actually has a basis in fact.
    Hell, I wanna be with my friends...
    Ms Sinclair

    lol. Well that's certainly honest of you.

    In Heaven Muhammad(P.B.U.H.),Hazrat Ali(R.A.) and many other people are present .

    Remember the saying, the kingdom of God is within you? Now, remember the saying, the kindgom of heaven cometh?

    One is coming and one already exists inside of us.
    *One comes with observation, the other does not.


    The one that is within you, awaits the time of resurrection because it is already there. It is a residence, we enter every night. For granted that we take it for no more than sleep. Such a mystery by which we enter at all. That which is within, belongs to God.

    Yet, the kingdom of heaven is coming, that which we must prepare. For of it, a time to end this coming and going; in and out of it.

    Remember how the Lord was accounting the angels, when satan entered (Job 1?), he was asked: "From where have you come?" to which he replied, from walking in and out of the earth. Indicating his free ability to come and go between heaven and the earth. Both in and out of the hearts of men. Men slumber, the spirit can be influenced by these "spirits" in "high places"

    It is a mystery which we will not come to terms until the the "books are opened".

    I, personally, do not like to "heaven" or "hell" folks; there currently exists both the light and the darkness in the kingdom of God. There is also a war there and the darkness seeks to take it by force. When the kingdom of heaven does come, and the appearance of Christ is so witnesssed, there will be no more darkness. The Lord is the light of the place. Hell will have no place there, and we will not have to go in or out of it.

    Your sister,
    Ginger,
    Adreamer2


    Work1ders

    Exposing Mother Teresa: Hitchens’ Book A Devastating Insight. JOHN M. SWOMLEY debunks the myth of Mother Teresa, who has been unjustly built into a near-saint by the media, by way of a review of the book, The Missionary Position: Mother Teresa In Theory And Practice, by Christopher Hitchens. From: THE HUMAN QUEST, SEPTEMBER -- OCTOBER, 1996


    Exposing Mother Teresa
    Hitchens’ Book A Devastating Insight

    By JOHN M. SWOMLEY
    ONE OF THE interesting books published in 1995 debunks the myth of Mother Teresa, who has been unjustly built into a near-saint by the media. She has been virtually untouchable as an almost sacred figure. and anyone who dares to criticize her is promptly rebuked.
    The book is The Missionary Position: Mother Teresa In Theory And Practice, by Christopher Hitchens (Verso, London and New York, 1995) $12.95. Hitchens aired a documentary on her in England and has investigated her activities.
    He questions her Nobel Peace Prize in 1979 because she never did anything for peace. In fact, in her acceptance speech she said, “Abortion is the worst evil, and the greatest enemy of peace... Because if a mother can kill her own child, what will prevent us from killing ourselves or one another? Nothing.”
    Wherever she goes this is her constant message. In 1992 at an open air mass in Knock, Ireland, she said, “Let us promise our Lady who loves Ireland so much, that we will never allow this country a single abortion. And no contraceptives.” She obviously sees no connection between poverty and too many children.
    In one interview cited in the book, she was asked, “So you wouldn’t agree with people who say there are too many children in India?” She said, “I do not agree, because God always provides. He provides for the flowers and the birds, for everything in the world He has created. And those little children are his life. There can never be enough.”
    One of Mother Teresa’s volunteers in Calcutta described her “Home for the Dying” as resembling photos of concentration camps such as Belsen. No chairs, just stretcher beds. Virtually no medical care or painkillers beyond aspirin, and a refusal to take a 15-year-old boy to a hospital. Hitchens adds, “Bear in mind that Mother Teresa’s global income is more than enough to outfit several first class clinics in Bengal. The decision not to do so... is a deliberate one. The point is not the honest relief of suffering, but the promulgation of a cult based on death and suffering and subjection.”
    Then Hitchens notes that Mother Teresa “has checked into some of the finest and costliest clinics and hospitals in the West during her bouts with heart trouble and old age.”
    The author mentions her visit to Haiti and her endorsement of the Duvaliers, the source of much deprivation of the poor in Haiti. Also, her acceptance of stolen money from Charles Keating, “now serving a ten-year sentence for his part in the savings and loan scandal.” Keating, a “Catholic fundamentalist”, gave Mother Teresa one and a quarter million dollars and “the use of his private jet.” During the course of Keating’s trial, Mother Teresa wrote Judge Ito asking clemency and asked Ito “to do what Jesus would do.”
    One of the prosecutors in the trial wrote her telling her “of 17,000 individuals from whom Mr. Keating stole $252,000,000.” He added, “You urge Judge Ito to look into his heart--as he sentences Charles Keating--and do what Jesus would do. I submit the same challenge to you. Ask yourself what Jesus would do if he were given the fruits of a crime; what Jesus would do if he were in possession of money that had been stolen; what Jesus would do if he were being exploited by a thief to ease his conscience.” The prosecutor asked her to return the money, and offered to put her “in direct contact with the rightful owners of the property now in your possession.” This supposed paragon of virtue never replied to his letter.
    No one knows what happens to the millions of dollars Mother Teresa receives. There is no accounting and no evidence that she has built a hospital or orphanage that reflects modern health and sanitary conditions.
    Hitchens details the reactionary political activities of Mother Teresa, from aiding the Spanish right wing against the anti-Franco forces who were seeking a secular society in post-Franco Spain, to her visits to Nicaragua and Guatemala to whitewash the atrocities of the Contras and death squads.
    There is much more in this book, such as letters from former workers with Mother Teresa exposing her hypocrisy. Hitchens concludes his 98-page book with reference to her fund-raising for clerical nationalists in the Balkans, her endorsement by Ralph Reed of the Christian Coalition, and her “cover for all manner of cultists and shady businessmen.” His last sentence is, “It is past time that she was subjected to the rational critique that she has evaded so arrogantly for so long.”

    John M. Swomley serves American society in various capacities, a major one being a Jeffersonian advocate of separation of church and state.

    From
    THE HUMAN QUEST
    SEPTEMBER -- OCTOBER, 1996
    page 19

    defenly heven becouse you will be with your loved ones

    Jesus Christ - The reason is obvious.
    I believe the earth is the original "hell" for the fallen angles. We are their decendants and each generation is supposed to be better than the last. As you can see by the state of the world and it's people especially people in power have truely made life for some people a living hell on earth. So I think we all serve our time in "hell on "earth". When we die if we stuffed up we are sent back again to see if we can get it right. Hopefully some of us make it and don't have to come back again. We are here to learn lessons. If you don't believe in heaven, what do you believe in.
    heaven


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