You are indeed right, I was naive to expect any more information than I did and I apologise for my abrupt remark, no doubt there are also many serious participants on this website.

Colleen thank you for the effort in finding the above link 

I really thought this was a serious website where people would be prepared to answer questions seriousley, it seems I was mistaken as people like country bumpkin and romos are just out to have a bit of fun. pity.