You would need a tree with a good root with plenty of acidy soil  of a ph below 4 they do not like LIME in soil and well watered should not lose the leaves or spines and put back in garden with soil with the same ph under 4 you can reduce limey soil with flowers uf sulpher or sulphate of amonia if the soil has a PH greater than 4 and keep taking readings on your meter until under 4. Seeds will not germinate to grow these type of trees taken from these cones on these kind of tree until cones are taken after the first strong frost of the winter.