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    Will you forgive me......

    Sorry if I offended anyone yesterday, I’m a strong believing passionate person who can get a little upset when I believe my freedom of speech has been denied.


    After sleeping on it and praying about this I have come to the conclusion that if I were allowed to preach here (something I didn’t think I was doing, at the time) then it could become a site that would get out of control.


    I will try to post my bible questions as questions and leave comments to you and I will only answer your comments.


    Thank you for reading this......

    +13  Views: 1460 Answers: 26 Posted: 12 years ago
    Colleen

    Moderator
    For those of you replying, you may not have been offended because you did not have to suffer the insult of being preached at but some of the members did. I feel I must point this out to acknowledge them. We've just lost a member because of his antics and insensitive ways and are soon to lose another unless I can talk her into having patience and staying. It's good that some of you have managed to avoid what is and has been going on but some are being insulted by how he uses their religion or just plain insulted because he cares not for their happiness here to be free of a religious objective. I've tried to be silent while you all paid homage but I can no longer. He did not mean any of this apology. Had he meant it, he would have stopped. He has not stopped and some members are fed up.

    Update, just checked my e-mail, another is leaving. Good going Randy. Keep pushing them out. Two gone so far. How many more?
    Headless Man

    Some are to easy offended, but I have promised not to post another religious question for a least a month, I am a man of my word.
    Colleen

    Moderator
    3 days of it has tested too many. If you were a sensitive man, you would understand this. Your ego is too great in my opinion. Not asking another religious question is a start but will you be joining the rest in now pulling up 4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11 months old religious questions just to flood the forum with them? I hope they do not think I and others are not aware of what they are up to.
    Headless Man

    Thats a no no now also? Why are they on the bottom of the pages?
    Colleen

    Moderator
    Yes, it's a no no when it's an agenda. It was an agenda. Grandpa3 was back under a new name. He's been suspended again, he was tailor1. I can spot all the agendas. I'm really not as stupid as some want to believe I am.
    Headless Man

    I never said or thought you stupid, and I know how you can tell if someone opens up another account and I could fool you, but I won't. Because I'm me like me or not.
    Colleen

    Moderator
    Whether I like you or not is not the issue here Randy. How much do you like other people? You profess to love everyone yet you couldn't listen. Your agenda was more important than what people were saying to you. You DIDN'T CARE!! You say some people are too sensitive. This means you recognize sensitivity but chose to ignore it. Chose to not make it important in your world. This is not how a humble man thinks. This is not a sensitive or compassionate man. You are selfish and fixated on your agenda.
    Headless Man

    Read what I said above, no religious questions for a least a month.......
    Colleen

    Moderator
    This is not enough Randy. We've lost 2 members so far. One will be leaving if nothing changes. We can not have good people leave because of your agenda.
    Ducky

    Moderator
    I'll ask AGAIN...Randy, why are you doing this?

    26 Answers

    No problem Randy, people think in different ways.

    No worries.

    If I found you so offensive, I never would have read as far as I did.  I'm not offended but I think you could check yourself a little better, be a bit more selective......

    Headless Man

    Your right and I will, thanks

    As far as i'm concerned  i see no issue..


     

    Headless Man

    Thanks, daren1....... but it was out of control and I do need to draw back some.

    No harm done Randy. I have already forgotten what it was all about.

    No problem Randy. You are a good human.

    Thank you Randy. Just something to think about. Bible questions should be true questions, because you need guidance in something you do not understand or perhaps help in finding a particular verse....something like that. They should not be about "the message" and used as an attempt to get people to follow your way or the Christian way.  The questions should never be about pitting your beliefs over others or that your religion is the better one because.............


    As your fellow Christians told you, let people come to you. You don't have to chase them down and remind them every chance you get. If people ask you questions about the bible or  your religion, there is no problem with answering them from a religious level, including verse. They asked, this means they are open to your answers and you are not pushing your beliefs on them. I'm just saying this because of all the questions yesterday as to what is allowed and what is not. I admire the fact that you are willing to meet in the middle with everyone. This shows the true spirit of God when you can open yourself to a new way.  : )


    Your freedom of speech was never denied, just your freedom to preach. If the admin allowed other religions to come and preach their religion and try to get everyone to accept their God as the one true God and savior, you would have gotten upset that they were being allowed to use the site as their pulpit, church, preaching place. Then we would have had religious wars. No religion can preach here because if that. ;)

    Headless Man

    "Your freedom of speech was never denied, just your freedom to preach."
    I understand that as I stated above, but if I get passionate and voicing my opinion on answering questions don't start telling me I'm ignorant and am floundering around in the dark.
    Because I'm not......
    Colleen

    Moderator
    You said you believe your freedom of speech was denied. That's what I see and what I commented to. You keep changing the context of how I used ignorance. Once you get that, you'll understand better that I was in no way name calling. Anyone who chooses to not acknowledge another's truths like you do mine, I see that person as floundering in the dark when they can not back up their false beliefs of me. Do not tell me I was not born to be exactly who I am.

    ________________

    I never said you said I was not born.


    Edited to move this here so you could be happy with getting the final word in.

    If having the last word is so important to you, go for it. The last slot is yours. I'm gracious like that :)
    Headless Man

    I never said you where not born............lol

    Who I am not to forgive. Christ has paid the price so that I will be forgiven of hideous things. It has never been my job to judge. And there is nothing to forgive. In saying this I will still hold true to not responding to questions that I feel are hurtful. 


    But this question was asked by a humble man. And I respect that. 

    Headless Man

    Thank you, I never meant to be hurtful and I respect you for letting me know how you feel.

    Of Course!!! We all have our 'off'' moments when we get upset.  I was cranky one day and was'nt in the mood to deal with any crappola...boy did I get some interesting comments...mostly people wondering if it was really Doo writing the answers- learned may lesson...now, when I get annoyed or am in "a mood", I don't spend too much time on this site.  Lucky  it doesn't happen all that often.

    :) ... No harm no foul... Have a wonderful day Randy.

    You certainly stirred up a hornets nest and i don't see anything wrong with that.


    I was not offended, in fact i enjoyed some of the answers, iam not a believer in any god, but i can still enjoy reading the different veiws on the subject, so i guess no harm done

    What is that supposed to mean ?

    Headless Man

    I'm asking for forgiveness for offending anyone and am going to try and obey site rules.

    More power to ya ,Randy.No harm done as far as I can tell.Rock on Mate!

    I didn't think you were preaching. I believe in Freedom of Speech. If they didn't like it, they could have clicked off your page.

    Headless Man

    Thanks, but I can see the need for some rules here.
    Colleen

    Moderator
    mcm, I've explained this to you already and you need to stop dropping this all over the forum. If you have an issue with the rules, speak to the admin or find a rule free forum. I can guarantee you will not like a rule free forum. Rules are in place to allow that EVERYONE is comfortable here, not just a few.

    Freedom of speech within reason is recognized here.

    I'm bumping this to make sure anyone I offended yesterday will see it.........

    doolittle

    over, done with, gone. God Loves you and we do too!!!
    lambshank

    doolittle, Amen

     I  understand that you are passionate and you felt like your freedom of speech was being infringed upon. You may have overreacted there a bit, but were all friends here...And to censor or say that you may only ask a question in a certain way is wrong if it's not against the rules. That includes offensive language or of a sexual explicit nature.


    If you apply this rule to "Religious" questions or "ANY" one type or question, then the same rule must be applied to all questions.


    On the other hand if you are asking questions to cause problems and are upsetting other members... then I'm sure that is a reason for concern or correction. I wasn't really keeping up on the whole thing, I only got bits and pieces. You know I wasn't offended Randy. It takes a real man to admit when he's wrong and apologize.


     


     


     

    Colleen

    Moderator
    No preaching is allowed and that rule is in place for a reason. You missed a lot of what went on here for the months you were gone. Some things had to change and new rules had to be instituted for the comfort of other members here. We lost a good member over the Christian agenda and they themselves are a Christian. It got to be too much even for them. When members leave because of too much preaching, a line has to be drawn and it was. Religious questions are allowed but as stated by the admin to me: "as long as they are in good taste and as long as the person\s who posted them doesn't have a secret agenda (religious preaching) for posting that question."

    The admin looked at the question and deemed it to be designed to push an agenda through preaching to anyone who did not agree.

    The matter was settled by the admin and should have been left there but it was not. Can we now please have it settled? Myself and many others would appreciate if this was all dropped and forgotten so we can move on to what akaQA is suppose to be about. Thank you.
    Headless Man

    Thank you leeroy, as Colleen said I preached, a sin here..........lol
    pythonlover

    Moderator
    Preaching is not a sin here. It is simply against forum rules and it applies to all religions. The reason the rule is in place is because people do get offended when they are preached to. This forum must have guide lines in place to allow all members to feel comfortable, not just the religious members. Not everyone here is a Christian, we have people who do not believe in a god and this is thier right and akaQA recognises that right. It is not a sin, it is simply a rule created to make all members feel comfortable and to not feel the pressures of someone elses religion.

    Thank you for the apology, Randy.  I think you went a little overboard with the questions yesterday; you were trying to make a point....I think you succeeded?  :D
    When you post a faith-related question, please remember this:  You are asking people for their opinions.  LET PEOPLE EXPRESS THEIR OPINIONS and ACCEPT THEM AS THEY ARE. 
    I only get weary when someone presses their own beliefs.....respect that people are different and we don't always see things the same way.
    BTW:  I admire your faith.....others may not.  Be considerate of that. 

    No offense taken by me either, I admire your courage and conviction even though I may not agree, we can however agree to disagree

    Headless Man

    Thank you sure we can.....

    I have said before you have a wonderful heart and you try real hard with the very best intentions . In my opinion there is nothing what so ever to forgive .I have a feeling that one day many people will be listening to you . I admire your conviction and courage ,sleep well as you have done your best . This showed a lot of class and heart !   I am okay with your words !!!               Bill

    ""Hand over heart, I forgive you.

    Headless Man

    As much as I disagree with you on most matters I do see you have a good sense of humor.............lol

    Your cool with me dude. Alway's were.

    Headless Man

    Thanks ed......
    eggplant

    Crawler...

    Hi Randy salt as you please in your words. I take phrases and use them to reflect meanings in different ways. Living  religion is very different than quotes. Those words are guidelines that beg for the expression of their understanding without quotes, in your own words, in your own life. I rarely quote the Bible. I live and breath my understanding of life. I think that is the point. 

    robertgrist

    I like to be wrong, to challenge and awaken the minds of others. When you see others sleep-walking their way through programmed behavior it’s an opportunity to enlighten and excite them to new possibilities all around them. I can be right when others are wrong by agreeing with them wholehearted and talk up their error over the cliff of total failure. Who would choose to hang in with a fool attacking another windmill!

    one must forgive in order to be forgiven....

    Headless Man

    Apparently I'm bad?
    daren1

    Arn't we all...

    no offence taken........we're all good

    Headless Man

    Thanks.....
    Colleen

    Moderator
    You were not involved in the preaching so of course you were not offended.

    No sweat from me.


    I must say in my opinion preaching can be religious or on any subject one chooses to "preach" on.


    In this case we had a lot of "preaching" regards the rights of one group over another so if "preaching" is banned the major part,  except for the question, was "preaching" of one sort or another so the majority was against "Administrators rules"


    Can`t have one rule for some and different rule for others.


     I also object to comments made re conditions in Australia compared to the US. These comments were based on hearsay not fact.


     Australia may not be perfect but it is a darn site better than most others.


    One only has to read the complaints on this site from people about their countrys` problems to see that is true.

    Headless Man

    I always wanted to visit Australia, but with my age and health will not happen...... Thanks
    Colleen

    Moderator
    You weren't here to see it. As for the gay thread, there was no preaching other than quotes from the bible. You missed the question that was pulled by the admin so of course no sweat from you.

    Is it true that when Australians call US people yanks, it's the same as calling them toilets?
    PEOPLELOVER

    I take your point Colleen but if a thread is pulled we can only make a decision based on available information.
    Regards the "Yanks", we use a lot of rhyming slang and we occassionaly refer to Yanks as "Septic Tanks" Septic tank being something that rhymes with Yank.
    Not as a insulting term.
    "Cheese and kisses" missus.
    "frog and toad" road.
    Trouble and strife" wife
    "Tin lids" kids.
    As a few examples.
    Colleen

    Moderator
    You guys do not have to make a decision though. The admin do that.

    Thanks, banks, outranks, pranks....they rhyme and do not put us in the sewer with the crap.

    Nothing wrong with stating the Truth, wherever, whenever, the opportunity arises.   :)

    Colleen

    Moderator
    You have no idea what this so called apology is about.
    Headless Man

    Thanks........


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