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    MOST OF YOU WOULD KNOW OR HEARD THE AUSSIE SONG 'WALTZING MATILDA'

    QUESTION: WHAT IS A 'MATILDA?' - JUMBUCK - BILLABONG  - SWAGMAN.

    +7  Views: 1432 Answers: 15 Posted: 12 years ago
    bulletman

    Eggie ,i know you know, please leave it to our o/s members, no, billabong is not surf wear.
    mycatsmom

    billabong is like a pond
    mycatsmom

    to Bulletman....What are our " o/s members " ?
    bulletman

    Mycatsmom, the o/s members don't log on till around 10.00 - 10.30 pm Aus. Central Standed Time, when most aussies are thinking about getting to bed.

    15 Answers

    I thought Billibong was a place... beachy type place... Matilda also a place... venturing "Jumbuk" is like "Dude!" and Swagman is a reference to a man who has worked very hard all day and then has gone to the pub and drank one too many beer and or otherwise.


    (Place E for Effort here).... :)

    lambshank

    E (but not quite right)
    doolittle

    EEEEEEE! YEEEEEEEEE Pi-i-a!
    mycatsmom

    a " waltzing matilda" is a mop head on a long handle. When the swag man was on the road, that's the only thing he had to waltz with.A jumbuck is a sheep. A swagman is a traveling intinerant hobo who would pick up jobs here and there along the road in small towns. The swag was his knapsack he slung over one shoulder. The end of the song refers to him committing suicide. So, it's sad.
    bulletman

    Fish i love your reference to a Jumbuck being a 'Dude' --- E+

    I believe a billabong might be a small lake or watering hole..

    bulletman

    Daren, it is a watering hole, only when it rains, it is a dead part of a river or stream.

    That song was always hard to resist singing along. I found this information in Wikipedia, and had no doubt eggplant was on the up and up with the answer. It's quite a story...along the lines of "Clementine" just a bit.
    "Waltzing Matilda" is Australia's most widely known bush ballad. A country folk song, the song has been referred to as "the unofficial national anthem of Australia".[1]
    The title is Australian slang for travelling by foot with one's goods in a "Matilda" (bag) slung over one's back.[2] The song narrates the story of an itinerant worker, or "swagman", making a drink of tea at a bush camp and capturing a sheep to eat. When the sheep's owner arrives with three police officers to arrest the worker for the theft, the worker commits suicide by drowning himself in the nearby watering hole and then goes on to haunt the site.
    The original lyrics were written in 1895 by poet and nationalist Banjo Paterson. It was first published as sheet music in 1903. Extensive folklore surrounds the song and the process of its creation, to the extent that the song has its own museum, the Waltzing Matilda Centre in Winton, Queensland.
    The song was first recorded in 1926 as performed by John Collinson and Russell Callow


    Jumbuck is sheep   Billabong is the lake  Swagman the worker man and Matilda is the bag slung over the shoulder

    PEOPLELOVER

    Well researched Bob.The bag is actualy called a swag and was normaly all the swagmans worldly possesions wrapped in a old army blanket that was a blue colour and for this reason you will sometimes hear the phrase "humping (no sexual connotation, it means carrying)his bluey"
    A lot of swaggies invaribly had a dog for company and as a pup these were often carried in the swaggies billy can tied to his waste. Billy can is the small pail like container for boiling water for tea or heating up food or even cooking.
    In the great depression of the late 20s early 30s a lot more men went on the "track" or as we call it the "wallaby" looking for work or just to stay alive.
    Some, in fact, most were lazy and had a habit of turning up at dinner time and offer work for food.
    Of course it was to late to work so they got food and cleared out before morning. These were referred to as 'sundowners'
    The song was written as you say and the actual billabong (water hole)was Comboine waterhole outside Winton township in western Qld. Sorry I went on a bit but I love this country and all its` idiocyncracies. Is that correct?
    bulletman

    Well said,PL, i did not know about the Sundowners, except the film made here starring Robert Mitcham and Deborah Kerr in 1960.
    Ann

    Bob, thank you. I always thought Matilda was a womans name.
    Bob/PKB

    PL: You have painted a vivid picture of the swagman and his history, hopping trains and sundowners appearing at the door just in time for dinner. Two of my sons had wilderness training for 2 months in Utah; they also used their billy cans to heat their bath water (billy baths) once a week; they were very protective of those cans!
    I really appreciate the Aussie friends sharing their history, customs, and celebrations with us "yankees". Many of us are so ignorant of others' histories, cultures, and celebrations. (I read your comment first thing this morning, and feel I have started my day well!)
    Bob/PKB

    Hi Ann: I thought Matilda was his girlfriend and he was asking her to dance, "You'll come a-waltzing, Matilda, with me."
    mycatsmom

    the jumbuck was a bag swung over his shoulder. The Waltzing Matilda was a mop head on a long handle. As the swagmen worked at their pick-up day jobs, they'd pretend the mop was a girl, adn they'd waltz with her.
    Bob/PKB

    From Wikipedia: Jumbuck is an Australian term for sheep, featured in Banjo Paterson's poem "Waltzing Matilda." It generally denotes a difficult to shear sheep,
    Tommyh

    Well done Bob.Top of the class for you.
    BTW.Matilda was the girlfriend in the song the swaggie was singing."You'll come a waltzing matilda with me". So the song "Waltzing Matilda" is a song about a song that the swaggie was singing.Have I confused you yet?LOL
    Bob/PKB

    Hey TommyH, All I did was look for information in Wikipedia, and it is fascinating story! Each new thing we learn just makes Waltzing Matilda more special...it's almost as though the next thing uncovered will be there actually WAS a swagman/sundowner and we'll find out who he was. This has been one of the best questions!!
    bulletman

    Ann, often 'joeys' that have been kept as pets have been named 'Matilda', when i was a youg lad, nowadays you have to have a permit to keep a native animal.
    PEOPLELOVER

    Sorry to have to use my advancing years and superior to point out a mistake made by another Aussie.
    But "matilda' has nothing to do with the swaggies "girlfriend".
    Swaggies were known to dance with their swags ( the rolled up blanket containing their gear)and "Waltzing Matilda" was just that.
    To ask "Who will come a waltzing Matilda with me?" "Hey who wants to come on the track,wallaby or road, take your pick with me?"
    Sorry Tommy old mate, still you are but a boy, the wisdom of old age is yet to be laid at your door. :)

    "Waltzing Matilda" is Australia's most widely known bush ballad. A country folk song, the song has been referred to as "the unofficial national anthem of Australia" ...

    bulletman

    Daren, it should have been our National Anthem, at least i know all the words'
    Bob/PKB

    Clonge: thanks for the referral to the song. It was the first time I got all the words and the crowd joining in to sing....WOW.
    As far as I know, there isn't a single song in America that is so dearly-loved. As you may know, the soloist at one of our "big games" actually forgot the words to the Star-Spangled Banner, and they were ON the teleprompter.
    mycatsmom

    PKB, LOL and it was more than one soloist that got the words wrong to our Nat. Anthem.

    It's the bag slung over his shoulder.

    PEOPLELOVER

    Come on Eggy you can do better than that, "bag slung over his shoulder" REALLY.
    Ask them what a jumbuk is or for that coolibah or billabong let alone a squatter or trooper Bulletman.
    How`s it hanging?
    bulletman

    PL,that Eggie is hilarious, maybe she has never heard of a 'SWAG', i'm extremely well. how are you coming along. Actually you are right about the jumbuk,etc, i think i will add it to the post.
    daren1

    I thought we had too much slang here in the USA , you Aussies got us beat, hands down..
    eggplant

    By the straps like any other bag.
    mycatsmom

    Yes, the jumbuck is like a back pack, only it is slung over one shoulder.
    mycatsmom

    a cooibah is a type of tree

    Composed by Andrew Barton Paterson, better known as 'Banjo' Paterson. He was the father of Sir Les Paterson, Australian Cultural Attaché.  Not many people know that.

    lewboy

    And i thought Rolf Harris wrote it.
    Tommyh

    Well we all know it.Banjo Paterson was a Queenslander & we're proud of that too.

    ""

    Glad you put that question up bulletman, I remember learning it in school but couldn't remember the story. Now I will, lovely old song but sad story .

    Matilda was referring to the bag on the swagmans back, the swagman is a wandering unemployed "bushy", jumbuck is a sheep and the billabong is a pond (I know none of these words are correct on the American spell check) but I suppose that's because they are Australian slang

    bulletman

    Shank,you are correct, and so is your spelling.
    lambshank

    Thanks bulletman
    mycatsmom

    the waltzing Matilda was the long handled mop he was waltzing with .The bag on his back was called a swag. Hence, a Swagman.
    lambshank

    mycatsmom, I wasn't sure about Matilda (I knew the rest)so I googled it, he refereed to his swag as Matilda as it was his only friend, nothing to do with a mop or dancing

    Good stuff Kent.I have been getting around to asking this very same question myself.Wasn't quite sure how to ask it.

    bulletman

    Thanks TOM, it's very hard to come up with an interesting question, that might explain why i'm lagging behind in karma points.
    Tommyh

    I went to an Aussie/Kiwi night in Houston Texas a few years ago & Waltzing Matilda was sung by the crowd.(Naturally).The expression on all the Yanks faces said it all."What the bloody hell are they talking ablout!!".I don't think they understood a word of it.

    I loved that song when I was a kid, and the music teacher even told us the meaning of the words. Then, I taught it to my own students, when I became the long term sub music teacher at the same 3 elementary schools per week.

    mycatsmom

    The song is actually kind of sad, b/c it speaks of him committing suicide at the end.
    lambshank

    yep, he jumps in a creek and drowns himself rather than be arrested by the police
    Tommyh

    Back in those days Aussie jails were not a good place to be.That's probably why He topped himself.

    WoW! Cool Stuff! Matilda, my dancing cow, would hate this news! I shalt tell her.  I go on (very short) walk-abouts with my cat!

    Tommyh

    Walk-abouts?? That's a whole 'nuther Ausssie legend. Like "The Dreamtime".They are bothe Abbo inventions.
    doolittle

    I believe I learn best by "being there"...So, Aussie pals, when can I visit?
    Tommyh

    Any time you like Doolittle.We're ready for you & you will be made welcome.Be prepared....It's a little different to what you are used to.LOL
    doolittle

    Cool! I have always wanted to visit your Beautiful Continent!!!!! I'll brush up on my 'koala' speak. Thanks Tommy!!! Let my body heal a bit and I'll be there!!!!!

    ""

    Could it be that "Waltzing  Matilda" is not your anthem because its music was composed by a scotsman and the thought of bagpipes echoing out was asking too much ?

    bulletman

    Australia at that time was Anglo / Saxon , the bag pipes were in a lot of music, my partner goes beserk every time i say they sound like wailing cats --- she's a Scot.

    Is that billabong or FILLaBONG???

    carmaxable

    we know what your thinking about! lol FILL-BONG HA HA HA
    mycatsmom

    a billabong
    mycatsmom

    Yeah, I get it too. Hi Carmaxable . Haven't seen you in awhile.


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