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    sheryVW
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    Is Polygamiy acceptable ?

    Some Moslems, Mormons,  Africans have more than one wife.

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    eggplant That's their problem.

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    Ducky
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    A lot of men complain constantly about the one wife that they have, so why would they want more of them?       :)

    fjoel I would onlly want 1 husband.

    Colleen
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    Not in the United States. It does not matter what the religious beliefs are. We live by man's law and here in the USA man's law says no. 


    Bob/PKB
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    Your question is a little too vague.  Is polygamy acceptable to whom?  It certainly wouldn't be acceptable to ME!

    eggplant Me neither. If another wife came home, she wouldn't last too long. I'd give her hell and she'd run back to mother.
    Bob/PKB He would have alot of explaining to do. ALOT!
    fjoel me either.
    bowlesy the mormons seem to get on with it o k.

    valR
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    It is acceptable in many places in the world.


    sheryVW
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          For a time, God did permit a man to have more than one wife. (Gen.4:19; 29:18 - 30:24) (Jakob,Solomon)


    But God did not originate the practice of polygamy. He provided only on wife for Adam.


    When asked about marriage, Jesus said: "He who created them from the beginning made them male and female and said, 'For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and will stick to his wife, and the two will be one flesh.'" - Matt. 19:4,5.


    Later one of his followers was inspired by God to write "Let each man have his own wife and each woman have her own husband." (1 Corinthians 7:2 )


    The Bible also states that any married man in the Chr.-congregation who is given special responsibilities must be a husband of only one wife. - 1 Tim.3:2,12.


    "Because of prevalence of fornication, let each man have his own wife and each women have her own husband." -1 Cor.7:2.  So there is no allowance for plurality of mates on either side.


     


     

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    Colleen "Later one of his followers was inspired by God"

    Everyone is inspired by God. No one holds the patent to divine inspiration, so saying that to try and make it this person more trustworthy or believable is fruitless. Muhammad was inspired by God too.

    The bible is not the law of all mankind.

    facebook
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    I don't know about poligamy really mean too some people? it seem to me when your having sex with your own children is that poligamy? or are they macking excuse for themself, I have read in the Bible that it was allow to have more than one wife,However that does not allow you to rape young children,I think we are evolve enough to know better,we are no longer cavemen for some of us,then they call this a religion taken away freedom of right. give me a brake !

    sheryVW Polygamous or polygamy means having more than one wofe or husband.
    Incest means Sexual intercourse betwen persons related within prohibited degrees. (Children)
    Bob/PKB facebook, you are referring to incest
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    Colleen Right. Back in the time of Adam and Eve, incest was the way of populating the earth. That's for the followers of the bible. For the Mormons, polygamy was the way to help populate the earth. In some instances polygamous men were marrying girls as young as 15 (even in the "modern" era). That's pedophilia. I think for either religion, they each had some pretty sick men who used population as a means to be sexually perverted with whomever they wanted. If God had wanted the earth populated fast, he would have populated it in better way. Oh wait, he did but that's another story and another belief.
    facebook Bob/PKB!are you saying that incest is the same as polygamy or that some people don't know the differencen?
    valR facebook,
    Polygamy - well difined by sheryVW in her comment - does not imply incest - sex between a parent and his/her own daughter/son. These are two completely different things.
    Bob/PKB I am thinking about the two daughters who gave their father much wine at dinner. They then took turns bedding him.

    Clonge
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    Yes; for a masochist.

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    Ducky LOL

    daren1
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    Polygamy was a way of life until the Quran was revealed 1400 years ago. When the earth was young and under-populated, polygamy was one way of populating it and bringing in the human beings needed to carry out God's plan. By the time the Quran was revealed, the world had been sufficiently populated, and the Quran put down the first limitations against polygamy.


    Polygamy is permitted in the Quran, but under strictly observed circumstances. Any abuse of this divine permission incurs severe retribution. Thus, although polygamy is permitted by God, it behooves us to examine our circumstances carefully before saying that a particular polygamous relationship

    Umbriel Most interesting. This is the first answer from a Muslim perspective that I can recall meeting on this site.
    I would observe that there is no obvious link between replenishment of the Earth and polygamy. As long as every fertile woman receives the opportunity to become pregnant as often as she likes, and in addition receives proper attention during pregnancy and labour, the Earth will be replenished at quite an alarming rate.
    In fact, polygamy can actually hold things back. Mohammed was a man of intense virility, who married twelve times - in several cases to women who were known to be fertile, having borne children to other men. But with all this varied activity, he managed to produce no sons at all, and just one daughter. His sperm-count must have been catastrophically low. Good thing, really. He was an epileptic, and his grand mal seisures were reported in clinical detail. Had he had (say) an average of just three children by each wife, we'd doubtless all have it by now.

    Umbriel
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    This question is more subtle than it looks, because there are two completely unrelated dynamics at work on the same population.


    The economic one consists of the observation that all stable societies are pyramids, with a small, wealthy ruling class at the top, and a large, poor, proletariat/non-working class at the bottom. Poverty is measured by the extent to which you have to be off the very bottom before you can enjoy a standard of living which gives you the same expectation of life as those at the very top (violent deaths are excluded from this calculation), while inequality is calculated by the slope of the angle. The more steep, the more unequal.


    Whatever the slope, and whatever the condition at the bottom, an attractive young woman from the lower ranks is likely to do well by both herself and her children if she can attract the attention of a man from a significantly higher rank, and ensure that her children are also his - even though she must share. As the American Fundamentalist Mormon women put it, 'better a 25% share of a 100% man than a 100% share of a 25% man.' That would seem to argue forcefully in favour of polygamy. To this you can add the eugenic argument that the rich man, even if he hasn't made his own fortune, is surely descended from whoever did, and carries at least some of his genes, and those of the clever, healthy, pretty woman whom he took to wife.


    Buit there's the other dynamic, which is physiological. Men and women both want sexual satisfaction, and for the great majority of both, that means straight sex with someone of the opposite. But however virile he is, a man has only a limited capacity to sustain an erection, and produce and ejaculate worthwhile sperm. And while there are drugs which will maintain an erection well past satiety (notably cantharides), they reduce sex to a chore. Why should an alpha male do chores? Viagra and the like are useful for older men, but from the woman's viewpoint, the usefulness is limited. As the man is (generally) no longer young, she may well enjoy the encounter, but will be left craving more. For as is well known, a woman who is skilful, healthy and experienced can enjoy sex far more often during a given period of more than a few minutes than any man, however virile. This observation would seem to argue forcefully in favour of polyandry.


    So, how do you construct the sexual habits of an ideal society? Well, the alpha males have many girlfriends, by whom they have many children. The alpha and pretty beta women are those girlfriends. The beta males establish relationships with the discarded girlfriends of the alphas, and quite often have  children with them. Beta females who have charm, brains, grit or all three, but lack looks are wild cards - beware!


    As for the low-beta/gamma types of both sexes, the  breeding prospects are grim. They may meet each other, they may even have sex, but both will be well aware that they are doing the best they can with what is available - who wants a child, which must be nurtured, by one of them? Being dead stupid, they often produce children; Shannon Matthews was an all-too-typical example. She may be salvaged, and there's a lot of motivation to do that; but she remains the child of her parents.


    Darci13
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    Not acceptable to me at all if I ain't the one and only I'll be the none thank you very much!


    leosmaml
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    You must adore mothers in law......


    valR
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    No, it is not acceptable and or legal  in the countries belonging to the - probably politicaly incorrect term - western world -  as well as other countries such as China.


    robertgrist
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    Do whatever works for you, if it don’t work so well you’ll know and that will be that. Laws, rules and decrees are expressions of what others found true for them and passed along. They are suggestions that evolved into laws. Our history has a lot about it that proves itself true every day. Its really stupid to ignore our heritage.


    Ra.is
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    The definition of polygamy according to Webster dictionary is: "The condition of having more than one wife or husband at the same time."  This is not acceptable since there will be  confusion identifying the father of a women's offspring, however, man has been given permission to practice polygyny which webster's dictionary describes as: "The marriage of one male with more than one female."  Restricting the marriage of more than one wife to man alone.  Considering the number of single women in society today not only is it wisdom but necessary.

    eggplant You must be male.

    facebook
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    How would men feel like if it were permissible for women having more than one husband?

    Umbriel I suspect the gays would be quite pleased. Those who had not come out could attribute their failure to the intensity of the cpmpetition, and for older, richer gays - wouldn't there be an awful lot of frustrated young men to choose from!
    facebook I don't know about the gays,but there would be lots happy women out there.

    dunc
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    My wife says it isn't acceptable. Me I 'm  not sure  I wouldn't like it doesn't seem a bad idea to me at all. 


    RONALDJPARLEE
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    IT IS ALL UP TO YOU , NOTHING IN THE HOLY BIBLE THAT SAID IT IS WRONG

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    Colleen In the USA, man's law says it's wrong. We follow man's law, not biblical law.

    Umbriel
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    In Malaysia, until well into the 1980s, the situation was rather complicated. Among Malays, who were Muslims, a man could be married to up to four women at once, but no more; however, the divorce procedure was very easy. Among Chinese, there was no theoretical upper limit, and some rich men were married to five or more at a time; but if a man married more women and/or sired more children than he could support, he suffered massive loss of face. Indians, who were generally Tamil Hindus, were monogamous, but the dowry obligation which descended on the bride's family could be very burdensome, and sometimes led to murder.


    All this was swept away when the country declared itself secular and monogamous, and refused to give any legal standing to dowry agreements. However, there is currently agitation in several of the northern states to reintroduce Islamic marriage laws. And where are the spare women to come from? Why, from the families of the infidels, obviously! As any pious Muslim can explain, enforced conversion and enforced marriage of an infidel woman is nothing at all like rape!


    GRABITZ
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    Not for me , I couldn't control the one I had .  

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    Ducky That comment sure explains why you "had" and don't "have". Maybe you'll be able to "control" the next one! BTW...how do you attempt to do that?
    GRABITZ I was thinking a chastity belt but law prohibits it without the womans permission

    bowlesy
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    more than one wife........only the brave........ or stupid.


    leosmam1
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    To me its morally wrong


    coolandy2000
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    Polygamy is for men. As a woman, it is not acceptable but tolerated no matter what religion because the women (Islaam) cannot say no. If the man can afford it without depriving one of the women in his "Harem", it is for the man to do so and work towards the communal welfare of his "wives" and the women to say okay, if they are allowed to say okay. Polygamy was after the introduction of a law. Before that it was Mistresses or concubines and acceptable as a life form. Now it is proving too expensive fortunately. But on the net are stories of men with 39 wives, and one with 50. That covers the 52 weeks in a  year I guess :).


    SADIQ50
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    upto four wives are allowed in ISLAM


    nogradiremete
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    Sometimes in some cases. Example after war. Another example is  the wife and lover of husband is very good friends.

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    Colleen Old testament stuff huh?
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    nogradiremete
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    What is more important? Morality or Life?
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    Colleen Morality. At this point, I do believe the earth is populated enough. Only religions now use the antiquated idea of polygamy to breed and produce more followers of the religion. Sort of forced slavery for the religion because the kids grow up, get minds of their own, may not agree with the religion but are forced to remain in it under threats of hell or worse, death.

    It is entirely dependant on one's moral and tangible standpoint. This is a conundrum that has existed since time began. Economic practicalities permitting, there is nothing to prevent two or more "consenting adults" to co-habit outside the confines of matrimony. The whole concept of democracy is "freedom of choice" therefore common sense MUST deem this practise permissible! AMEN! 



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