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    novagod666
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    If i die and i Believe in god but dont go th charch will i go to havan?

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    friendindeed
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    It all comes down to your Faith in Jesus


    sheryVW
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    If you are really doing God's will, he will tell you through his spirit about heaven or earth.


    Headless Man
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    Going to church or believing in god will not get you to heaven alone.


    God Jesus and Holy Spirit makes up the holy trinity, God in three-forms.


    Yes if you do one thing, accept a free gift. John 3:16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. Just say yes and mean it, tell others about your choice, then live it, and find a good BIBLE teaching Church. Read the BIBLE yourself and study.


    A good site:


    http://contenderministries.org/romanroad.php


    bulletman
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    You don't have to go to a man made church to be a good Christian, if you truly believe, there will be everlasting life for you.


    RONALDJPARLEE
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    YES ! YES ! YES !


    daren1
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    only through faith in christ, the true church are those who believe in christ..

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    Colleen Which could be why I do not believe in churches. Nahhh, I do not believe in them because they mislead God's people.
    daren1 true but not all..

    sawali
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    Going to church or .....has nothing to do with going to hevan.It has to do with your deeds- whether u r a good person or bad.

    andyboy hi it makes no difference Sawali if you don't believe in god let me tell you this,you will of course die you,do the min. your born!!!i believe there is something out there and deffo believe in karma
    take care


    Headless Man Sorry, but if has nothing to do with your deeds or how would you know when you have done enough good deeds?
    You are saved by grace, Gods Grace, all you need to do is accept his son as your savior, he died for your sins, he paid the price and all you have to do is accept it as a free gift.
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    Colleen You are saved because God created you and God loves you. God would never destroy Soul or denied it access back to him. No accepting of a religious belief required.
    sawali So randy, you believe a criminal, a murderer and a cheater would be saved by grace of God. In that case why wouldn`t you be a bad person. It defies logic.IMHO
    Headless Man Don't defy logic, If you accept Jesus as your savior you have no desire to sin. Yes, a murder can be forgiven, but will still need accept Christ and pay for his sin on earth.
    If he accepted Christ he will still go to heaven.
    sawali headless, rememember GOD is fair. He will punish the sinners and reward the good deed doer. He will forgive sins comitted against Him but not against others eg If I harm you, ONLY YOU can forgive me not GOD. If God were to forgive sinners en bloc, there would be nothing left but sinners who rely on the passport to be forgiven.No it cannot work like that because God gave you the capacity to decide what is right and what is wrong.
    Umbriel You people seem to be attempting to revive the old argument about Salvation through Faith versus Salvation through Faih & Works. This leads inexorably to the Socinian Heresy of Celestius, which held that there was a trade-off, and since no one was perfect, a big enough basket of works would compensate for a total deficiency of faith.
    Anathema! You'll be reviving burning at the stake next.

    Star child
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    Yes, every living being has been granted everlasting life and a future with no more pain and sorrow. Going to church has nothing to do with salvation or heaven. When Jesus Christ died on the Cross he paid the debt of sin for us  and in giving his life he has conquered  death so that we his children would have life eternal with our Father in Paradise. All God requires of you is that you love Him and  honor Him with all your heart. Seek and Ye Shall find my friend.


    Colleen
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    Yes, you will go to heaven. 


    doolittle
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    I guess Heaven is a type of haven, though I've never thought of it that way.  There are a lot of ways to enjoy an enriched relationship with Jesus/God.  Continuing a spiritual journey means to continually learn...so if not in church/charch..then read, find Christian music, a good radio or TV station.... Churches can provide fellowship and growth- but All of them have their faults because all men/women sin.


    Wow, did I just write that?  (I usually stay quiet on sex, polotics, and religious Q's) Huh...New Year :)


    zorro
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    yes


    username
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    ummm    havan is a tv show--[to be there forever could be hell ].....iam sure that if god existed he really wouldnt care if you went to church or not..[keeping the universes running proberly takes up most of his time]..lol


    rms
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    I don't know what or were havan is. I also don't know anybody who goes to charch, so I'll guess and say maybe


     


    cheebz
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    The third commandment of the Decalogue recalls the holiness of the sabbath: "The seventh day is a sabbath of solemn rest, holy to the LORD." Scripture also reveals in the Lord's day a memorial of Israel's liberation from bondage in Egypt: "You shall remember that you were a servant in the land of Egypt, and the LORD your God brought you out thence with mighty hand and outstretched arm; therefore the LORD your God commanded you to keep the sabbath day."


    But I guess that is only if you really beLIEve in organized religion and the Ten Commandments bullshit. But if you do beLIEve, then yes, according to the Catholic Church you will go to hell if your ass is not in that pue every  sunday. I did like one quote I found though, make's me think that man might have been up to somethin-  "The sabbath brings everyday work to a halt and provides a respite. It is a day of protest against the servitude of work and the worship of money." Only if organized religion really beLIEved that.


    RONALDJPARLEE
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    YES , as long as you know that yeshua is the messiah , or that jesus is the christ , or that isa is the masea of islam ; one in and all the same , the savour of the world : 

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    Colleen All names should be capitalized especially the name/s of a God or spiritual leader. God, Jesus Christ, Yeshua, Savior. Isa, all capitalized to show respect.

    Chiangmai
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    Mathematically your odds are:  96.8% heaven bound,   See you by the Gate.

    Umbriel There's an exceedingly rude joke about this, concerning four recently deceased nuns. I'd tell it to you, here and now, but Colleen, who holds all nuns in the deepest respect, would delete it before you had a chance to enjoy it.

    tamerfilly
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    To believe in God and the promises that he made for us to be in heaven, is a journey you have with him. The journey is a spiritual one , and to understand the nature of that journey is to be guided by the Holy books. His promises are not just related to Heaven , but here on earth too. Many people say " Oh but i have been good , i try to be kind to people etc " It again does not work like that you have to give your self to God to enable that journey, then understand why he wants you to be with people who believe in him and what he set out for you. You have to live in the life with God, but that does not mean to say that because you do not go to Church he has deserted you, because like the good shepherd that he is , he will always be watching over you until you make that commitment to him . Its his followers in faith that guide you into the right directions.  

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    Colleen One does not have to go to church to prove commitment to God. Jesus said there is only one true church. Jesus himself did not believe in churches.

    Umbriel
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    You will most certainly die, as do we all. You will most certainly not go to Heaven, there being no such place. Your belief or otherwise in God will affect neither of these outcomes, nor will your attendance or neglect of church.


    I write as an atheist, hedonist and logician. Others, who disapprove of atheism, hedonism and especially logic will tell you otherwise.


    It's your call.


    Benthere
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    Where does the commandment to remember the Sabbath Day and keep it Holy fit in the discussion ?


    Only by God's grace and forgiveness can we enter heaven !

    Umbriel Sure; but given the descriptions of what goes on there, who would wish to?
    Benthere Like you say...it's your call !

    ....I know I am lost without God's forgiveness and depend totally on Him !

    valR
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    Yes, your belief will sufice.


    coolandy2000
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    People who go to church merely express their own needs to go to church and a place for prayer and worship. I would go with @zorro's most definite yes. As long as you believe in God, let him be the judge of that, and he will most surely show you whether he wants you in church or not.  By the way, nowadays, prayer groups are in homes of people, no longer only in church. So if you find it more interesting to go to a  prayer group, do so :). Freedom of choice, the choice is yours :).


    Mama Bird
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    Being good or going to church will not get you to Heaven. Believing that Jesus Christ died on the cross for you will get you to Heaven because it will be the begining of a special relationship with Jesus/God and the begining of you realizing that you are a sinner but can ask for forgiveness of those sins making you perfect as Christ is!


    robertgrist
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    You are in Heaven now, the odd sensation of not being in Heaven but on a tiny little blue ball far out in space is an illusion that is held in place by the collective choice of millions of other beings like you who have agreed that this is a world far-far away from Heaven. So, in a way, we made this world what it is and keep it going by the forces of our collective beliefs and denials. You are safe here to experience as you will, life amid this great folly.  


    digger
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    Ooooh, You're living dangerously, my friend.


    Nobody enters past the Pearly Gates without doorman St. Pete's approval. Tip generously and you're in. Hallelujah !


    nomdeplume
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    Heaven is a gay night club in London, near Charing Cross station. You don't have to believe in God to go there nor go to church. I don;t suppose you even have to be gay, but I have never been so I don't know.


    TSC
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    Depends


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    sherrifofo
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    Well thank  (g)od that weather or not I capitalize (g)od or (j)esus is not relevant to weather or not iI get into heaven. I may not be perfect here on earth, but once i am in heaven, its all that matters.


    That being said,


    god bless you, have a beautiful day :)

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    Colleen Stubbornness and ignorance are not very becoming traits but you are free to have them as God does give us all free will. You will not be perfect in heaven either but if it makes you happy to use imperfection as your excuse, so be it. Death makes no Soul perfect if that's what you're counting on. Ego is a sin according to your religion. You might want to check yours and not be so sure God is pleased by stubbornness and ignorance. That being said, I hope you find God soon so you can understand why all this is so important. You need to find Him first before you say, "God bless you" like He would even hear you.

    sherrifofo
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    Oh my.....The answer is not complicated at all!!! First off, you dont 'have' to go to a church, but look at church as a school to learn about god. How can you believe in something if you have not been schooled in it. 2nd, you have to more than believe in god.....you have to accept jesus christ as your lord and savior into your heart.


    so to think that you can do nothing and get into heaven is very very wrong. the path to heaven is very narrow.


    Romans 8-1 says it well.  There is therefor now no condemnation to them which are in Jesus christ, who walk not after the flesh, but after the spirit.


    sounds difficult to understand, but what jesus said is, those who follow him shall have eternal life......PERIOD!!!!!! find a fun church to try out. I had to try atleast 20 before i found the one i love and has a rockin band and worshop team and the pasture is funny to boot


     


    Id rather live my whole life as if there was a god and find out there wasnt, then life my whole life as if there wasnt a god, and find out there was!

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    Colleen How come your "school" never taught you to be respectful to your God? You should always capitalize the names God and Jesus Christ. I find it disrespectful to bring them to your level by insulting their higher states by not being respectful and using capitol letters to start the names. Didn't your actual school outside of church teach you this? Education is a valuable tool one should always use.
    Headless Man Spiritual knowledge and school knowledge are two different things.......
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    Colleen Church should be instructing spiritual knowledge, not hiding it.

    bert141
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    Yes you will go to havan. Google maps will tell you exactly where that is if you punch in Havan, Brazil.


    lewboy
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    IF you do go to Havan can you send me a box of Hanan cigars please.



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