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    Why are some people so against same sex relationships?

    All humans have the same needs for love, safety, and commitment. Gays, lesbians, and bisexuals are no different. Same-sex attraction, while rarer than other-sex attraction, is simply a different orientation, not a "perversion," anymore than being blue-eyed or left-handed so why is it so diffucult for some people to understand and accept?

    +8  Views: 2667 Answers: 30 Posted: 7 years ago
    Ashligh16

    I'm straight as well but grew up in a family with a gay aunt and a gay cousin so the idea that people would treat them so unfairly just because of who they chose to be with is mind boggling. I find the people who are willing to go out of their way to be rude and openly admit with disgusting words that that are against same sex relationships just have way too much time on their hands and are insanely closed minded. It's time to get a back bone and stop listening to what a "book" is telling you to think.

    Headless Man

    The book tells you too love all even your ermines. But we don't have to love the sin. I love people who commit all sorts of sin. I can always hope they change.

    jayaywhy

    People can be ignorant and closed minded about the subject. I'm strait and happily married with a baby but I could care less what two guys might want to do in their own lives. If that happens to be kiss, fuck, get married or what ever, let them. As long as they understand that your strait and they don't come on to you or get over friendly, there should be no issue.

    leeroy

    I just think that some of us don't like different period. Some people put others down to feel better about themselves, while still others can just be hypercritical and not understanding. If a Christian really wants to make a real impression on a same sex couple, show them kindness and understanding, not hatred of judgment. Jesus taught for us to love our neighbors, well most likely some of our neighbors are gay, so just be good to everyone. Maybe they will see a difference in you as a person and ask why you are such a cool person?

    30 Answers

    im in a same sex relationship with my wife of 25 years :its the same sex everynight!

    Headless Man

    LOL.......

    doublehelix

    hahahaha, :]

    I have a deeply religious friend who detests homosexuals. I point out to him that it is only in the Book of Leviticus that homosexual acts are proscribed. In this Book, it is also prohibited to wear two types of cloth at the same time, to grow more than one crop in a field and to crossbreed animals.
    These 'sins' he commits every day. I call him a 'cafeteria Christian' as he takes the bits of the Bible he likes and leaves what he does not. I also point out that Jesus made no recorded comment on the subject.

    A lot of good thinking on this subject.
    But I would politely point out that abuse of another person because they are different from you is also sin and intimidation. God abhors the practice of sin, not the sinner
    His law states (Romans 6:23) 23 For the wages sin pays is death. . .


    Please note it does not say the wages of sin is Hell fire as members of the cloth have done in times past


    This is the reason that we all die because we have all sinned. We all need the benefit of Christs Ransom to restore to full spiritual health and everlasting life as promised.


    Keep reading the scriptures as at Psalms 1

    Countless millions are aware that same sex relationships are not just contrary to Gods purpose but will disqualify people who practice this from a resurrection.


    Many people who claim to be loving Christians show their disdain in a hypocritical way as if they themselves were not also sinners also needing the ransom of Gods Son.
    Some of us are anxious that so called 'Gays' should discontinue this practice for their own sake and inherit the blessing the True God intends for those showing love for him by obeying his laws.


    (1 Corinthians 6:9-11) 9 What! Do YOU not know that unrighteous persons will not inherit God’s kingdom? Do not be misled. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men kept for unnatural purposes, nor men who lie with men, 10 nor thieves, nor greedy persons, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit God’s kingdom. 11 And yet that is what some of YOU were. But YOU have been washed clean, but YOU have been sanctified, but YOU have been declared righteous in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ and with the spirit of our God..


    From the above quotation I conclude that some believers formerly practiced same sex but with help perseverance, prayer and supplications were able to overcome this practice and become acceptable to the God of the resurrection not withstanding a vast improvement is personal health and hygiene.


    Millions of people have contracted death threatening illnesses like AIDS Hepatitis and sickle cell anemia as a result of these practices.


    I hope this has been of some help.

    Ashligh16

    Unfortunately when it comes to religion it's always going to be dealt with very strong opinions. I'm Agnostic, so I'm not about to tell anyone there's no god simply because I don't have the right to nor am i naive enough. But in MY opinion I don’t think someone should have to change themselves to be accepted by this so called god. I believe god is mainly a comfort to those in fear of the unknown and it's hard for me to understand that I should have to live and act a certain way in order to be "declared righteous".

    Headless Man

    GOD only gives us ten rules to live by, it's hard even for christians, but when we see GOD we will all bowl before him.

    ole hipster

    Well said fellow agnostic Ashligh16!

    Dollybird


    I for one Andy, wont - bowl before God.

    Something else i'm fed up with hearing what god thinks,wants,hates etc,etc.I make up my own mind about things n think for myself my opinions are mine not some 2000 y/o fellas thinking on a mythical beings ideas.I dont believe in god but i may find i'm wrong when i die but i've never repented,regretted or asked forgiveness in life,wont be in death if how i lead my life aint good enuf for him thats too bad.
    I'm str8 yet this whole attitude to gay people is pathetic,,they go on about procreation when the planets over populated,we should be glad theres gay couples not havin kids.Is it simply two men having sex thats is hard to take??.Why?? I don't find men attractive,sorry guys.lol but i bet the sex is real good thou,maybe one day if time n place right was right i'd try it,,it's lack of attraction that stops me only,the physical act itself would be pretty damn good if you ask me.

    You know what some people hear make me sick with their sanctimonious,disapproving attitude busy being gods mouthpiece or worse fake sympathy for the unfortunates born with a genetic defect,wish you could actually stop n listen to what youre saying n maybe you'll realise it's crap.Religion whats that got to do with love,repent,supplication.I'm not a believer but i mite be wrong,doesnt matter cos if youre god actually is real i dont need him or his kingdom,take my free will seriously i do.Now a genetic defect ~ like the ones that cause evolution then ??
    We've gone beyond just living to maintain the species which is the main drive of other animals.We can choose our own purpose in life.I'm str8 have no kids n never once had sex to procreate.Now i'm into women but if i was attracted to men i'd have NO problem fucking men n if god,his sheep or whoever else wants to judge me perhaps they ought to get a life of their own to concern them

    People are terrified of what they dont understand. I hope we are leaning toward a world where discrimination is less popular. One Love.

    Some people are against any individual or group that is different from themselves. If they see others hating, it becomes a monkey see, monkey do thing.

    Headless Man

    Who's hating monkeys?

    williamestep

    Not me. I like monkeys. But then I like almost all animals.

    they are close minded, afraid, or stupid
    because they are close minded or stupid

    Because in the Bible it is a sin and you cannot change or twist the word of God.

    Ashligh16

    Changing and twisting the word of god has already been done, thousands of times, each time the bible was re-written. Sorry to break it to you.

    Colleen

    Moderator

    In the NT before the revised editions, homosexuality was not listed as it wasn't a word yet. In the NT before the revised editions, a man lying with another man was deemed an abomination, not a sin. Abomination and sin are two separate things. Wording in the bible has been changed in order for the bible to match the church's dogmas.

    PEOPLELOVER

    GOOD FOR YOU COLLEEN THUMBS UP.

    Headless Man

    You can translate without twisting, if you don't think so learn Hebrew.

    This is a silly conversation.

    Dear MikeLaurenzana1,


    Let me answer your ignorant rant bit by bit, K?


    "Children will be brought up with two moms, or two Dads, I ask you? Does this seem far to a child?"


    Let me ask you, Is it fair for a child to be brought up by just a mom when the father is no where to be found? Same sex parenting has been studied to death and it's been found that children lack for nothing in these homes and at times are even better socially adjusted than children from hetero homes. There are always family members who fill the void of the missing male or female parent. The same happens in hetero families when a farther or mother is missing from the picture. Research. The facts are out there.


    "do you want someone gay checking you out "


    Gays have been in the military for generations, even before DADT. Men survived. Women don't always want men checking them out either but men for some reason think they have a God given right to do so. Maybe a gay man would think your ass is too fat or your penis is too little or that you are just plain unattractive. Who knows? I really wouldn't worry about it if I were you.


    "If it does not make you [un]comfortable than something’s wrong."


    My brother is 100% hetero and was in the service. He never worried about who was looking at him. He figured if some guy was checking him out like that, then he should be proud of what he has because someone found it worth looking at. His unit had a gay man in it. They made this guy their "house mouse" (he did all the barracks paperwork) not one of the men in the barracks had an issue with the fact he was gay. Not one turned him in because he was gay. My brother says the issue is yours and you are a very small minority in the military that actually has an issue about gays serving. He is extremely secure in his masculinity. He reaffirms my belief that masculine insecurity is a sign that someone is hiding something, like "is he checking me out because he knows I'm gay or have gay tendencies that I'm trying to hide?" A secure man does not worry about these things.


    "You may know some nice gay people it does not make it right what they are doing"


    I'm a lesbian and what I do is right for me. Not right for your wife maybe, but right for me. I think close mindedness is not right but, well...here you are : )


    "You can blame it on your genes, your gay parents"


    I'm still not convinced of the gene theory. Both my parents are heterosexuals. I blame God. Well I don't blame Him like it's a bad thing. But, God did create me. I've never know any thing different. 49 years old and I've still never felt a physical or deep emotional attraction to a man. I was a truck driver. I met a LOT and I mean a LOT of men. Many who wanted to date me but nope, I felt no drawing towards them like I do women. Nope sorry, I'm defiantly gay and always have been. Never woke up one day with a choice.


    "And if your church says it right to be gay you need to find another denomination."


    Understandable comment coming from you. Close minded people don't like open minded people. Less support for the close minded side.


    As for exorcisms, men of limited intelligence about homosexuality tried that already. Tried and failed, nope, gays are not demon possessed. Sorry.


    "why is it so common that most gays die from HIV?"


    Where do you get your facts behind this comment? Most gays do not die from AIDS. Gays die from all the same things heteros die from. Anyone can die of AIDS. AIDS is not selective. The AMA a long, long time ago concluded that AIDS is not a "gay disease" and it was not a gay man who first brought it to the USA. Why do straight women end up with AIDS? Are they sleeping with gay men or are their straight husbands bringing it home to them? Lesbians are the least likely people to acquire the disease.


    It's OK however, ignorance is bliss until you have to wake up and face REALITY and the fact we don't live in caves any more nor do we throw stones at others for what we perceive to be their imperfections.


    Lastly, my brother just told me to tell you, "you're an ignorant f*ck".

    IM A LESBIAN TRAPPED IN A MANS BODY!!

    Stick it too him Colleen, he is a intolerant bible basher. I am full blown hetero and at 79 yrs old do not see me changing but I do not judge people by who they prefer to enjoy relations with. Why should I? All these wankers (that is probably truer than I meant)profess Godliness but forget "love thy" neighbour" "let he who is without sin" "do unto others" etc etc when criticising you and others who happen to be of a different persuasion. You ask why? I will tell you their tiny God ridden minds cant understand and what we dont understand we tend to fear. There are lots of tolerant people.

    Colleen You say each lifetime we pick something new to experience. WHY WOULD ANYONE PICK THE CHANCE TO BE BLIND, DEAF, IN A WHEEL CHAIR ETC. WHERE DO THEY FIT INTO YOUR THEORY

    Colleen

    Moderator

    To learn and understand what it's like to be disabled or perhaps in another lifetime they caused someone else to be disabled so they must suffer the same. That's 2 reasons. Do you need more?

    Homosexuals can be perverted just as heterosexuals can. what makes a man a pervert is his depraved infatuation with repetitive 'taboo' desires. Infatuation. But there are always on both sides ones who put love first. :] However! homosexuals have a genetic 'defect'. It is a mutation. Such a mutation as this can be healed through meditation.. Genetics are alterable through raising your spiritual vibrations.. but that doesn't mean there is something wrong with them for accepting it.

    Ashligh16

    Now that you think homosexuals need to be "healed" of their genetic "defect" shall we move on to trying to heal all other humans with genetic disorders such as people who have down sydrome?

    Colleen

    Moderator

    Do you suppose down syndrome can be healed through meditation? Quick anonymous_sender, write a book with your healing treatment for genetic defects! Heal the world of all mutations and disorders! You should be rich in no time! I'm a lesbian and I am not convinced that it has anything to do with genetics. I believe it's a life experience created by God (not the Jesus God) to help me understand what being different from the so called norm is. Though the negativity of my peers that I suffer, I learn to be more excepting of others who are different and allow them their existence just as it is.

    Colleen

    Moderator

    Are you a homosexual anonymous_sender?

    Colleen

    Moderator

    You can't fight my life today so now you want to fight mt past life? Really? I was a human in my past life, like many life times before it. Why do you type in caps? I would have seen your question even without you yelling it.

    IluvJesus

    WHERE YOU A DOG IN A PAST LIFE,OR A SNAKE??

    PEOPLELOVER

    iluvjesus, Well I don`t know what Colleen was in a past life but I have a sneaking suspicion that you are a hypocite in your "this life". Take a word of advice from an old man " Becareful slinging shit, it has a habit of sticking to the thrower".

    anonymous_sender

    "Though the negativity of my peers that I suffer, I learn to be more excepting of others who are different and allow them their existence just as it is."


    That's great! Then it shouldn't bother you when I use the word genetics. our understanding of genetics is different. If healing a man of down syndrome can be conceptualized, then it can be done. imagination is important here. Homosexuality is psychological, not physical. Just open your mind to what i'm saying. "God's" or the lessons of this world do come in all forms. If you accept your sexuality, then you should accept also what it is.

    anonymous_sender

    "Are you a homosexual anonymous_sender?"


    It seems you're more content at avoiding reality then facing it.

    You know what some people hear make me sick with their sanctimonious,disapproving attitude busy being gods mouthpiece or worse fake sympathy for the unfortunates born with a genetic defect,wish you could actually stop n listen to what youre saying n maybe you'll realise it's crap.Religion whats that got to do with love,repent,supplication.I'm not a believer but i mite be wrong,doesnt matter cos if youre god actually is real i dont need him or his kingdom,take my free will seriously i do.Now a genetic defect ~ like the ones that cause evolution then ??
    We've gone beyond just living to maintain the species which is the main drive of other animals.We can choose our own purpose in life.I'm str8 have no kids n never once had sex to procreate.Now i'm into women but if i was attracted to men i'd have NO problem fucking men n if god,his sheep or whoever else wants to judge me perhaps they ought to get a life of their own to concern them

    ok so by the bibles logic , since god made me in his own image , and iam gay , then he is just a big poof like me!! and its all you straights who are going to hell.....whew thats a releif...lol

    Cindy Mcknight

    Blastomy is a sin also!

    Colleen

    Moderator

    lmao, how many times can you condemn a gay? He's already going to hell according to your book. Do you thinks he's worried about the rest of the list of sins?

    Because those people have no lives what so ever & care about others lives too much.

    In my humble opinion  (arguably) It is plainly apparent that the majority of gay people appear to  constantly (flaunt) and bring up the subject (never obtain full peace of mind) about it who apparently crave acceptance from the majority in our society,  is because they sadly realise deep down in within their Saul's, that it is not strictly the correct way to live, not only from a religious point of view, but from a medical stand point as well.any medical doctor would I think confirm this, therefore  my main reason for saying that is, the majority of (sic) gay people are sadly living constantly, from a mental standpoint on the defensive. However having said that it is not the fault  of the individuals concerned because they fully believe that is how they were born and it is not up to me to judge or dictate to others how they should or should not behave, Finally I think research should be carried out to determine the correct  cause of the phenomenon and how best to accommodate and finally give these good people peace of mind.   

    because they are close minded, afraid or stupid

    WHY INDEED! I am not homosexual but I do believe that those who are should have every right that anyone else who is in love does. Even if they aren't in love who cares! People are different! Deal with it cuz it's going to be everywhere you go no matter where you go... so either learn to live with it and accept it or go hide in the deepest cellar you can find and bite your fingernails til they are bloody while you rot in paranoia! LOVE!!! ;)

    If it is true that our creator destroyed the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah as He could no longer tolerate sexual perversion rife in those placesa then it's all a bit scary. I am straight guy but cannot judge the reasons that this or that is wrong, but sexually transmitted diseases and dysfunctional familieas are just some of the problems the world witnesses through not practising a conventional life.

    It was meant to be Adam and Eve NOT Adam and Steve!

    Simple. Because it is sin and God hates sin. God loves the sinner, but hates sin.

    Ashligh16

    So because god says being gay is wrong then it must be wrong, right? Well in that case I believe someone just stating they're Christian in front of me is offensive in it's own right because they're upholding bigotry and anti-gay views .... thats fair isn't it?

    Colleen

    Moderator

    Homosexuality is a learning experience for certain souls. As a believer of reincarnation & not Christianity, I believe we have 1000's of lifetimes to live and before we are born into each lifetime we pick something new to experience. We can only become like God if we experience all things, if we know all things, if we understand all things, if we accept all things. We can only do this if we live as all things. Homosexuality is not the sin. The sin is being intolerant and judgmental and mean spirited of those who are "different". How can one truly know something if one never experiences it?

    Colleen

    Moderator

    Boy, you people sure have warped God's message. We are all particles of God. Our ultimate goal is to return to that from which we came.

    Headless Man

    So you do believe in a GOD, thats a beginning. Eve believed in GOD to but she wanted to be like him, sin was born.

    God did not write the Bible. Man interpreted what he thought was his inner self saying to him and interpreted it as "GOD". I think man's ego causes all this rehertoic. Has anyone but anyone come back and verified this "GOD". Think of GOD as like IBM. Man came up with a theory, wrote rules,regulations,sense of order for man (collectively) to follow and IBM prospered. That's basically the same idea behind "GOD". That's my take on this silly conversation.

    Cindy Mcknight

    IBM is authentic!! The Bible is also, have you not read it? There are a lot of things in it written many many years ago that are now happening, that is NOT coincidental! A very scarey thought and a great read book! I feel sorry for the non believers for you have to believe to go to heaven.

    People are against same sex couples because number one it is just plain  wrong, and I am not going to be the one of those liberals to say it’s ok any one can do as they please, because with that attitude it will bring problems to the general public. (Let me explain!!)

    Others who are liberal know no better, and will think it is right and accept gay activity.
    Children will be brought up with two moms, or two Dads, I ask you? Does this seem far to a child?
    We are only here for a short while we need to stay focused and admit when we are wrong and when things are wrong we need to let people know even if it may hurt their feelings. (Americans have gone soft)
    In the military they bays are open when you shower do you want someone gay checking you out (think about it) If it does not make you comfortable than something’s wrong. (Common sense does not seem to be applied any more to problem solving) Lets Stand proud admit when things are not right and although you may know some nice gay people it does not make it right what they are doing. You can blame it on your genes, your gay parents, or gay friends in the end you are the one to make that choice.
    (Just like our currency reads In God we trust.) And if your church says it right to be gay you need to find another denomination. If you are thinking of a change in church think about this what is the only church that has the power to perform an exorcism this would be something real and genuine and if that can be performed. Common sense will tell you this would be the real deal. One last questions why is it so common that most gays die from HIV? (Common sence need apply)

    The reason men and women have marriages and live together is to propogate the human race.
    If you will show me 2 men or 2 women who live together in a homosexual way, who can produce a child without any outside help, then I may ease my fellings toward homosexuality.

    Ashligh16

    Like I said above, there are already way too many men and woman (or boys and girls) reproducing who shouldn't be, resulting in abortion and adoption, that’s why this is in no way, shape or form a valid reason for not agreeing with same sex couples. I guess I should just be happy with the fact that anyone who doesn't agree with it or frowns upon it doesn't have an ounce of power in stopping it. Therefore I can only hope that you're lame reasoning and uneducated words just won't be heard.

    Cindy Mcknight

    No because I'm sure they were unaware when they DID marry, outside help made it possible and they are a hetersexual couple

    Colleen

    Moderator

    "The reason men and women have marriages and live together is to propogate the human race."
    It is NOT the only reason people marry. Some people marry simple because they love each other. If the sole reason for getting married were to procreate then sterile people would not be allowed to marry. Elderly women beyond child bearing years would not be allowed to marry. Couples who choose to not have children should be forced to divorced since according to you the reason for marriage is to propogate (this word is more commonly used for plants and animals but that would just be me being picky).

    Colleen

    Moderator

    Also, what's your views on heterosexual couples who go to doctors to help them conceive because on their own, they can't do it. Is it your opinion that they should not be allowed to be married because they had to get outside help?

    Colleen

    Moderator

    But according to Tickertocs marriage plan, people only get married to have children. If they can not have children as GOD INTENDED them to (that means the parts fit together and the woman gets pregnant) then they should not be allowed to be married. If they can not do it without outside help, then they'll just have to divorce since that's the condition Tickertoc put on homosexuals. We pay our taxes, we are two consenting adults, our government is not controled by any one of the many versions of the bible.

    Colleen

    Moderator

    As a closed mind would. Be proud : )

    PEOPLELOVER

    YOU CAN`T WIN COLLEEN AGAIST THOSE WHO ONLY SEE BLACK OR WHITE WITH NO SHADES OF GREY. THEY ARE BLINDED BY OUTDATED IDEAS, 2011 NOT 110AD

    a16BDE

    The different shades of grey are the different levels of dirt. I love black or white.

    I think its to do with our upbringing, i dont approve of same sex relationships, especially now it is being encouraged by governments who allow same sex ceremonys, and are now instigating same sex marriages, thats if any church will agree to it, because i believe if a certain church allows and goes ahead with a same sex marriage, they will lose a lot of the congregation.
    Governments have also allowed same sex partners to adopt, such as the recent case of elton john and his lover boy..i think thats wrong too.
    Our dear god and lord jesus abhors gays in any shape or form, and certainly would not give his blessing for a mother to give up her child to a same sex couple. It all started with adam and eve, a man and a woman..and thats how it should be, and how a child should be raised. Of course there are circumstances where a partner dies, but that can be overcome with relatives or friends.
    gays, queers,faggots or whatever you want to cal;l them, should do what they do in the privacy of their own homes, and not flaunt it on the public streets for everyone to see.
    I witnessed a couple openly kissing, and told them what i thought, and a cab driver friend of mine threw them from his cab, and then beat them up for doing it in the back of his cab..they may think its acceptable to us..but its not.

    Ashligh16

    But you think beating a same sex couple up is ok?! You're not a chstian at all truckyboy, you're a disgusting bigot who likes to call himself a christian because it sounds good. The fact that you can't see how wrong it is to physically hurt someone is scary and you should probably seek some help from someone other than youre so called god. I could go on but talking to you is a waste of my time.

    Ashligh16

    Also, don't use the word "us". You dont have the right to speak for all christians.

    Cindy Mcknight

    Beating them up is not right either, I'm not judging with my comments, just factual, our Lord will do the judging when its time.

    Colleen

    Moderator

    tb, I think you're a lot of bigoted talk & no action. I do not believe your cab driver friend threw them from his cab, and then beat them up for doing it in the back of his cab. Also if you were there & hate gays so bad, why is it you only spoke to them but left it up to your buddy to beat them both up? I bet you have to image sex too because no woman will go near a goofball story teller like you. It's completely transparent that you created this story for the shock value. Are you looking for hero worship from other haters?


    Are you a skin head wannabe? Do you honor the swastika of Hitler?

    Colleen

    Moderator

    Because I can tell you this, what you write here is on no way Christian.

    Headless Man

    OK, OK where's all that LOVE?



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