Are you, or do you know , a woman who has undergone a theapeutic /eugenic abortion?
This question arose from another thread, but it's of serious social significance. It's also a trick question. I myself know a great many women, but only one has ever confided in me that she had had an abortion, and it wasn't therapeutic. She and her boyfriend were both at uni, the birth woud have loused up both their careers, so they killed the kid. Given the statistics, it's likely that a lot of women known to me could tell similar stories, were they so minded. Certainly, Ursula Le Guin told such a story about herself, as part of her feminist agenda. When very young, she got pregnant by a boy of the WRONG RELIGION. Since, whatever else you think of her, Le Guin is mentally brilliant and physically tough, and would surely not have leapt into bed with a moronic weakling, the world was most likely deprived of a fine, strong, clever young man or woman, who would by now be a grandfather/mother of a high-quality brood.
So, when is an abortion justifiable? The absolutists would say, 'NEVER!' It's murder, and you can never justify that! This position is easy to spporyt - broadly. But consider a very horrible case from the 60s. A woman was pregnant, and the foetus seemed abnormally large (this was before the days of ultrasound scanning) but no real problem! Forceps delivery indicated, and carried out.
The baby, once delivered, wasn't the usual sort. It was a case of conjoined twins, joined face to face - except that neither had a face. Two brains, four ears, two complete bodies - but no breathing apparatus, so as soon as the umbilicus was cut, they started to die from anoxia - and as good thing too. Yet the mother had carried them to term. Would it not surely have been better for her, could the condition of the foetus been determined then, as it surely could now, to have aborted?
Aho! Hard cases make bad law. Amniocentesis has arrived, and shows no signs of going away. Many couples, especially in southeast Asia, routinely have the foetus scanned for sex, and aborted if it's female unless they have a son already. When last I checked the figures, the ratio of live male births to female in South Korea was 114/100 - and in China, with its one-child policy, it's purported to be a lot worse, though no one knows for sure. There they don't abort, but drown surplus girls - just like poor-quality puppies.
Here in the UK, it's gone a different way. There are a number of congenital conditions which are quite easily corrected, most noticeably hare-lip and club-foot. Now, we must be realistic. The operation to correct hare-lip will leave you looking presentable, but will NOT make you into a reigning beauty. The operation to correct a club foot will leave you capable of a brisk walk, but will NOT make you into a brilliant athlete. Lord Byron, who suffered that afflicrion, played for his school in the Eton/Harrow match; but it was agreed that when he hit the ball, a lesser boy should take his runs.
Here in the UK, ultrasound scanning and amniocentesis are readily available, and as a result the more grotesque anomalies tend not to make it to term. We don't really need a whole lot more Elephant Men, and I don't notice as many Down syndrome adults as I noticed Down syndrome children in my youth. But exactly what is happening?Answer this Follow this
My three sons were born in the space of 3 years and 7 months. The first two were 401 days apart; they actually had the same due date (one year apart) due to the premature birth of the eldest. So they were 1 and 2 when #3 was conceived. I had an amniocentesis and, had the baby shown signs of grave physically or mental disability, would have had an abortion. I am "pro choice". I was not willing to compromise the time, attention, and finances a special needs child would have required to the two children I already had.
And, in answer to the question, YES.
|11 months ago. Rating: 1|
You know exactly what is happening. With regard to eugenics I do not know as this does happen - statistics probably not reliable. However, with regard to babies being born with congenital defects - this has become an ethical problem as the highest of Paediatricians find it so worrying as they can keep a lot of these children alive with modern technology and proceedures. It has become a dilemma for them. I have looked after children with the most awful defects rarely seen - children born with only a brain stem - just with the instinctive able to suck and cry for example. Hydrocephalus - where the spinal fluid build up in the brain - sometimes prior to having a shunt for drainage the head so large and heavy - again having basic instincts to suck - these babies were fed with milk but in extreme cases given only water until they died this was decided after some time but their condition being so bad they would have died anyway. Many women have abortions naturally they lose their babies at about four months - this is also called abortion as opposed to a miscarriage which happens sooner sometimes just a couple of weeks - this may be an act of nature for some reason ,just think it is a heavy period , and women quite do not know this has happened.
With regard to cleft palate (correction also helps with the speech which the children are very happy for) and hair lip - what in the world is wrong with you these can be corrected why in the world do you put so much emphasis on looks and yes Lord Bryon did have a club foot (talipes) maybe somewhat unsightly more of a walking difficulty for him and who cares that he could not kick a ball, but what a brain and intellect - one of my favorite poets
And yes there are many women who have abortions which are not therapeutic and as for your brilliant friend depriving the world of a genius - was the guy also brilliant - I am sure you are just winding everybody up with your vein of thought processes.
|1 year ago. Rating: 1|
I'm confused "Therapeutic means: relating to, involving, or used in the treatment of disease or disorders"
Eugenics means: the proposed improvement of the human species by encouraging or permitting reproduction of only those people with genetic characteristics judged desirable. It has been regarded with disfavor since the Nazi period
How does eather apply to an abortion, the removal of a fetus?
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